Another good point On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Matthias Wessendorf<[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu<[email protected]> > wrote: >> Hi Mohammad; >> >> Actually there is no reason not to accept your statements, you are totally >> right! . Why I want to subproject under Geronimo is that its diverse >> community(including user base) , and stable development activities. Another >> reason to be subproject is that until to now, we were not so successful to >> extend our user community, for example; a low mail traffic at OWB u...@... >> list. But being subproject under Geronimo we can also get more attraction >> from users. > > Once it is part of Geronimo - being integrated - and users start using it, > they will be traffic on the OWB list. Keep in mind that this is a > young standard. > (and there were some negative comments in the wider JavaEE space about > web-beans anyway - that maybe also a reason why folks aren't looking at it, > yet) (I also have a hate/love affair with WebBeans ;-) ) > >> >> And one more reason is that Geronimo may support ongoing development >> activities to achieve OWB's being a full spec compliant. Geronimo has a >> great experienced team who could help us to make this possible. > > that happens by default, as Geronimo has to have JSR 299 to be JavaEE6 > compliant. Geronimo helped us a lot on MyFaces 1.2. But still I am more > confident with having a TLP. > >> >> But as you said, definitely OWB can also be TLP as its own. >> >> What do other folks think about ? >> >> Thanks; >> >> --Gurkan >> >> 2009/9/9 Mohammad Nour El-Din <[email protected]> >> >>> -1 >>> >>> Allow me to disagree with you Gurkan, IMHO I think OWN should be a TLP >>> project. I know it is to some extent related to JEE but IMO it defines >>> a generic and extensible model for dependency injection and contextual >>> programming which is not restricted to JEE, so being a sub-project to >>> Geronimo will give the community users the impression that we only >>> support JEE. I think we should follow the model of Tomcat and OpenEJB, >>> which is a separate TLP and being integrable with other ASF projects >>> like Geronimo for example. >>> >>> And for the communit, being a separate TLP will not be affected and we >>> could get more contributers and committers and a big example on that >>> is DBlevins. >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Mark Struberg<[email protected]> wrote: >>> > +1 >>> > >>> > LieGrue, >>> > strub >>> > >>> > --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Gurkan Erdogdu <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >> From: Gurkan Erdogdu <[email protected]> >>> >> Subject: Re: Graduation? >>> >> To: [email protected] >>> >> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 8:23 PM >>> >> Hi Kevan; >>> >> >>> >> Firstly its very good news for us! >>> >> >>> >> I personally think that we can continue to implement OWB as >>> >> a sub-project under Geronimo. Geronimo has a stable >>> >> community so we can also benefit from its diverse community >>> >> and its reputation. Moreover, it ease the integration OWB >>> >> with other Geronimo modules like EJB, JSF etc. >>> >> >>> >> So this is my +1 as it is a sub-project under Geronimo. >>> >> >>> >> --Gurkan >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> ________________________________ >>> >> From: Kevan Miller <[email protected]> >>> >> To: [email protected] >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:00:44 PM >>> >> Subject: Graduation? >>> >> >>> >> All, >>> >> I wanted to checkpoint with the community about their >>> >> thoughts regarding Incubator Graduation. I don't want the >>> >> community to be too focused on implementation issues and >>> >> forget about an important goal -- getting you out of the >>> >> Apache Incubator! >>> >> >>> >> IMO, this community displays nearly all of the >>> >> characteristics that I would look for from a successful >>> >> Incubator project: you've successfully created several >>> >> releases while operating in a clear, open, and welcoming >>> >> manner. All of this while facing some significant challenges >>> >> as the JSR 299 spec has been an ever shifting target. >>> >> >>> >> I'd like to see us moving towards graduation. To start >>> >> things off, is the community interested in becoming a >>> >> top-level project? Or would you rather graduate as a >>> >> sub-project of an existing TLP? >>> >> >>> >> --kevan >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks >>> - Mohammad Nour >>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour >>> ---- >>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" >>> - Albert Einstein >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Gurkan Erdogdu >> http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com >> > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >
-- Thanks - Mohammad Nour - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour ---- "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" - Albert Einstein
