-1 from my side. The reasons for being a TLP were already mentioned, especially by Mohammed and Matthias.
br, Sven 2009/9/9 Mohammad Nour El-Din <[email protected]> > Another good point > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Matthias Wessendorf<[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu<[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Mohammad; > >> > >> Actually there is no reason not to accept your statements, you are > totally > >> right! . Why I want to subproject under Geronimo is that its diverse > >> community(including user base) , and stable development activities. > Another > >> reason to be subproject is that until to now, we were not so successful > to > >> extend our user community, for example; a low mail traffic at OWB user@ > ... > >> list. But being subproject under Geronimo we can also get more > attraction > >> from users. > > > > Once it is part of Geronimo - being integrated - and users start using > it, > > they will be traffic on the OWB list. Keep in mind that this is a > > young standard. > > (and there were some negative comments in the wider JavaEE space about > > web-beans anyway - that maybe also a reason why folks aren't looking at > it, > > yet) (I also have a hate/love affair with WebBeans ;-) ) > > > >> > >> And one more reason is that Geronimo may support ongoing development > >> activities to achieve OWB's being a full spec compliant. Geronimo has a > >> great experienced team who could help us to make this possible. > > > > that happens by default, as Geronimo has to have JSR 299 to be JavaEE6 > > compliant. Geronimo helped us a lot on MyFaces 1.2. But still I am more > > confident with having a TLP. > > > >> > >> But as you said, definitely OWB can also be TLP as its own. > >> > >> What do other folks think about ? > >> > >> Thanks; > >> > >> --Gurkan > >> > >> 2009/9/9 Mohammad Nour El-Din <[email protected]> > >> > >>> -1 > >>> > >>> Allow me to disagree with you Gurkan, IMHO I think OWN should be a TLP > >>> project. I know it is to some extent related to JEE but IMO it defines > >>> a generic and extensible model for dependency injection and contextual > >>> programming which is not restricted to JEE, so being a sub-project to > >>> Geronimo will give the community users the impression that we only > >>> support JEE. I think we should follow the model of Tomcat and OpenEJB, > >>> which is a separate TLP and being integrable with other ASF projects > >>> like Geronimo for example. > >>> > >>> And for the communit, being a separate TLP will not be affected and we > >>> could get more contributers and committers and a big example on that > >>> is DBlevins. > >>> > >>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Mark Struberg<[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > +1 > >>> > > >>> > LieGrue, > >>> > strub > >>> > > >>> > --- On Tue, 9/8/09, Gurkan Erdogdu <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> From: Gurkan Erdogdu <[email protected]> > >>> >> Subject: Re: Graduation? > >>> >> To: [email protected] > >>> >> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 8:23 PM > >>> >> Hi Kevan; > >>> >> > >>> >> Firstly its very good news for us! > >>> >> > >>> >> I personally think that we can continue to implement OWB as > >>> >> a sub-project under Geronimo. Geronimo has a stable > >>> >> community so we can also benefit from its diverse community > >>> >> and its reputation. Moreover, it ease the integration OWB > >>> >> with other Geronimo modules like EJB, JSF etc. > >>> >> > >>> >> So this is my +1 as it is a sub-project under Geronimo. > >>> >> > >>> >> --Gurkan > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> ________________________________ > >>> >> From: Kevan Miller <[email protected]> > >>> >> To: [email protected] > >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 6:00:44 PM > >>> >> Subject: Graduation? > >>> >> > >>> >> All, > >>> >> I wanted to checkpoint with the community about their > >>> >> thoughts regarding Incubator Graduation. I don't want the > >>> >> community to be too focused on implementation issues and > >>> >> forget about an important goal -- getting you out of the > >>> >> Apache Incubator! > >>> >> > >>> >> IMO, this community displays nearly all of the > >>> >> characteristics that I would look for from a successful > >>> >> Incubator project: you've successfully created several > >>> >> releases while operating in a clear, open, and welcoming > >>> >> manner. All of this while facing some significant challenges > >>> >> as the JSR 299 spec has been an ever shifting target. > >>> >> > >>> >> I'd like to see us moving towards graduation. To start > >>> >> things off, is the community interested in becoming a > >>> >> top-level project? Or would you rather graduate as a > >>> >> sub-project of an existing TLP? > >>> >> > >>> >> --kevan > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Thanks > >>> - Mohammad Nour > >>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > >>> ---- > >>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep > moving" > >>> - Albert Einstein > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Gurkan Erdogdu > >> http://gurkanerdogdu.blogspot.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > > > > -- > Thanks > - Mohammad Nour > - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > ---- > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" > - Albert Einstein >
