I didn't want to sound harsh, nor did i want to create a us vs. them 
discussion. I can also see a lot of openness and support on MM's end 
lately, but i think it's good for osflash to be as independent as 
possible. If someone wants to join a Adobe group, i'm sure they have 
more than enough groups to choose from.

Cheers,
Ralf.

Peter Elst wrote:

> Macromedia/Adobe has IMHO been incredibly supportive of the osflash 
> movement -- think it could prove to be a valuable asset to the usergroup 
> program to have a different branch of usergroup, like an MMUG or CFUG 
> but now rather an OSUG.
> 
> Must say I haven't found running an MMUG has in any way restricted us in 
> terms of what we can present or talk about and has the benefit of being 
> affiliated with the mothership. This is just my own view on things, feel 
> free to disagree. We're not trying to reinvent Flash here and working as 
> closely together with Adobe as possible can only benefit us in the long 
> run and avoid FUD from being generated.
> 
> - Peter
> 
> 
> Ralf Bokelberg wrote:
> 
>>So does this mean, your Peter is ready to give up his new freedom for 
>>some peanuts? At least Macromedia has had some usergroups going, the 
>>same is true for Adobe probably. I don't think it's a good idea to mix 
>>them up with Osflash. But this are only my personal 2 ct.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Ralf.
>>
>>
>>Folkert Hielema wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>Peter reacted on the 'first topic ever' Dutch group, with the idea to 
>>>make the group (groups i this case) original adobe groups. That way we 
>>>could maybe get some breeze communication going for online meetings.
>>>    
>>>
>>
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