On 3/19/2011 6:48 PM, steve harley wrote:
On 2011-03-19 13:20 , P. J. Alling wrote:
Once again, you are postulating torture for torture sake. There's no
percentage in it. The Government gains nothing and can lose everything.

apparently, the US government has figured out its percentages on torture outcomes and decided it's worth doing as long as the blame can be deflected somewhat; don't ask me for the analysis that led to this conclusion


Rational beings don't risk that.

governments, like corporations, are not "rational beings", they are subject to a decision-making dynamic that can defy rationality in startlingly different ways than human beings themselves defy rationality


It's not the government that's rational, but the humans who run it and do it's bidding that are. If you think that there are no consequences improper behavior should, just ask the General in charge of Abu Ghraib, she no longer has a career in the US military, the subordinates that were directly responsible were court-martialed and most received long prison sentences. If Manning is being mistreated it will come out and heads will roll. Maybe not the heads you want to roll but someone in the chain of responsibility will pay. Hell, the US Navy just relieved the Skipper of the Enterprise for actions he took as the executive officer, that didn't even come close to mistreating a prisoner. His immediate superiors who knew of his actions and tacitly allowed them to continue will be taking early retirement with loss of pay and rank. Their careers ruined as his.

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