Bob, It certainly sounds like I load about the same as you. I never really thought of it as greed, but I don't pull extra slack out. The description that everyone gives seems rather slow to load. That could be one of my problems. Many times I am in a hurry - wedding timing or whatnot and I just find magic needles to be bothersome.
I can certainly load the PZ-1p, MZ-S and ZX-10's quickly and confidently, but feel the magic needles to be too fiddly. Perhaps I need some "magic fingers" to work those magic needles. Bruce Dayton Thursday, March 07, 2002, 9:15:04 AM, you wrote: Rac> Bruce, Rac> I suspect the fault is with us and not the magic needles. I have occasional problems with ALL my magic needle cameras. I suspect two causes... Rac> Greed - I always want to get that extra shot out of the roll, so I don't use Shel/Bill/Aaron's methods where you put the leader in before the film canister. It is awkward to handle right handed Rac> for me and demands extra slack be pulled from the canister. So instead, I drop the canister in and pull the minimum I can across the shutter and try to stick it in the magic needles. Rac> 2nd - There is something to do with which side of the roller you use. If I go toward the outside edge of the camera and jam into the magic needles, when I wind the film I get a hook at the end Rac> of the leader that grabs the magic needles and things seem to work better. If I go toward the inside edge (shutter side) of winding spool and jam into the magic needles, I get more trouble and Rac> winding failures. Rac> In either case, I watch the rewind know for evidence of a good load. Rac> Regards, Bob S. Bruce wrote: >>>I'm beginning to wonder if some magic needles grab better than others. I have always had to really jam the leader way down and almost nurse it around for the first wind or two. Bruce wrote: >>>Perhaps on some bodies they are too smooth and just don't grab well.<< Rac> - Rac> This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, Rac> go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to Rac> visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

