Bob,

It certainly sounds like I load about the same as you.  I never really
thought of it as greed, but I don't pull extra slack out.  The
description that everyone gives seems rather slow to load.  That could
be one of my problems.  Many times I am in a hurry - wedding timing or
whatnot and I just find magic needles to be bothersome.

I can certainly load the PZ-1p, MZ-S and ZX-10's quickly and
confidently, but feel the magic needles to be too fiddly.  Perhaps I
need some "magic fingers" to work those magic needles.


Bruce Dayton



Thursday, March 07, 2002, 9:15:04 AM, you wrote:

Rac> Bruce,

Rac> I suspect the fault is with us and not the magic needles.  I have occasional 
problems with ALL my magic needle cameras.  I suspect two causes...

Rac> Greed - I always want to get that extra shot out of the roll, so I don't use 
Shel/Bill/Aaron's methods where you put the leader in before the film canister.  It is 
awkward to handle right handed
Rac> for me and demands extra slack be pulled from the canister.  So instead, I drop 
the canister in and pull the minimum I can across the shutter and try to stick it in 
the magic needles.

Rac> 2nd - There is something to do with which side of the roller you use.  If I go 
toward the outside edge of the camera and jam into the magic needles, when I wind the 
film I get a hook at the end
Rac> of the leader that grabs the magic needles and things seem to work better.  If I 
go toward the inside edge (shutter side) of winding spool and jam into the magic 
needles, I get more trouble and
Rac> winding failures.

Rac> In either case, I watch the rewind know for evidence of a good load.

Rac> Regards,  Bob S.

Bruce wrote: >>>I'm beginning to wonder if some magic needles grab better than others. 
 I have always had to really jam the leader way down and almost nurse it around for 
the first wind or two. 
Bruce wrote: >>>Perhaps on some bodies they are too smooth and just don't grab well.<<
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