Where are the nice full frame birding lenses?

Gonz , you couldn't ask for a better birding lens than the 300mm f4.5 FA - that along with a HD-DA 1.4 AF rear convertor gives you a a powerful birding lens - check out the images on the Pantax Gallery. I've had one ever since they came out and it is one of my most used lenses - has never given me any trouble.

Yeah, I know its not available new but I do see them used from time to time.




Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: Sounds like Pentax/Ricoh's resources are spread pretty thin...


I don't expect Pentax to be releasing mirrorless cameras rivaling
Sony's or anyones for that matter. Or I don't expect them to produce a
camera aimed at the professional sports photographer market. But their
particular niche, which I would say is aspiring amateur photographers
that like small form-factor cameras with lenses that are not
necessarily the sharpest, but take a more balanced approach to the
overall look of the images, seems to be more and more encroached by
the likes of Sony, Fuji, etc.  In addition, things that are nice to
have, like a nice flash, teleconverters, etc. are pretty much
non-existent or exist only in old versions that you have to turn to
ebay to acquire.  Finally, the dearth of new lens offerings from
Pentax, esp nice primes suitable for full frame digital with modern
autofocus, basically have stopped coming with the exception of the 50
later this year.  Where are the nice full frame birding lenses?  Or a
prime wide angle?  The real sign however is the lack of support from
third parties. Everytime a nice lens comes out from Sigma, or some of
the newer players such as Laoa, the Pentax version is not there.
Given the lack of new primes coming from Pentax, I would love it if
Sigma art series lenses were available for the K-1, but alas, few are.
I thought for sure the enthusiastic response from the photog community
to the K-1 would have resulted in more investment from Ricoh to keep
the momentum going, but it appears that they have pulled back instead.


On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 9:12 AM, John <[email protected]> wrote:
Well, *IF* I was running Pentax (and yes, I know I'm not), what actual
customers who bought previous models had to say about them would be "my"
starting point for developing new models and for improving older ones.

What did "we" get right? What did "we" get wrong? What do the customers say they want and are waiting to buy? I understand that granting everything on the customer's wish lists would be impossible, but the engineers should be
at least thinking about them.

I'm sure Pentax knows that; I think that's what Mr. Takashi Arai was trying
to explain.

Plus, I think you have to account for the interviewer's bias in favor of
"mirrorless" cameras and what role it played in how the article was edited &
what they chose to quote from the longer interview.

Basically, Takashi Arai said Pentax (& Ricoh) are sticking with what they
already do well and aren't going to neglect those things to go off chasing
rainbows & unicorns  ... for now.


On 4/8/2018 02:42, mike wilson wrote:

I suppose another interpretation might be that Pentax doesn't _receive_
much
feedback on new model direction but mostly on existing models.


On 07 April 2018 at 18:39 John <[email protected]> wrote:


The impression I got when the K-1 Mark ii was announced was that the
improvements were driven (in part) by customer feedback and that feedback was also the reason for the "upgrade" being available for existing K-1's

On 4/7/2018 11:00, Alex Sarbu wrote:

I see, thank you for the clarification. However, I disagree with your
interpretation; it can't possibly mean that. We have paragraphs like:
"We have lots of requests for lenses, especially from K-1 users. They
want more lenses that match the higher resolution of the K-1, so that’s
one objective which we would like to implement.", or "This form factor
is
iconic for the Theta. We think it’s important. On the other hand, if
there is demand, we would like flexibly to think about any other
possibilities, even for other form factors." telling the complete
opposite.

Actually I'm not sure what he meant... but let's not forget, he's a
Japanese speaking in a foreign language. Maybe they decided on the
upgrade because of the feedback? Maybe people are offering feedback on
the upgrade? But it can't be not incorporating our feedback into new
products... the K-1 itself was made because we demanded it.

OTOH... people's demands are all over the place, often mutually
exclusive. Listening doesn't mean meeting all our requests.

Alex


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