Paal states:
 
> I can't imagine anyone claiming to be remotely professional who don't use DOF
> preview. 
> The Z-1p don't have DOF preview when using the AV wheel. I have no problems
> setting 
> the aperture on any lens and grossly prefer it to pokig my eye with my right
> thumb 
> every time I tried to set the aperture with the Z-1p's Av wheel.
As far as being 'remotely professional', I wasn't actually talking about
myself, I was talking about the camera. As for depth of field prevue, I
didn't say I don't use it; I use depth of field preview when I have time; I
often don't when a dog is flying at me at 35 miles an hour. Also, I am a
large person with large thumbs and large lenses, and as I said the aperture
controls on the lens is extremely awkward to use in fast situations. And I
often want to shift instantly from aperture to shutter priority.

> 
> 
> 
> I've never heard about a pro using program mode but I guess one learn
> something every 
> day. I for one appreciate the fact that you can instantly switch from aperture
> priority auto to manual with the MZ-S: a truly useful feature on a pro grade
> camera.

I have never heard about a pro recommending a camera without seperate
aperture and shutter speed controls, and even fewer actually using one.
And I, for one, appreciate the fact that you can instantly switch from
aperture priority auto to shutter speed auto to full program with the PZ-1;
a truly useful feature on a pro grade camera. Having access to a program
shot is extremely convenient in fast moving and ever changing situations, as
long as you can trust the exposure settings on the camera. Not everyone is
shooting geological formations like yourself, or can afford to work at
geological speed. Try shooting some dog trials sometime with your aperture
ring and depth of field preview; you'll miss most of the shots, not to
mention all the shots you'll miss because of the 2.5 (if that) frames a
second capabilities of the camera.

> 
> Pure uninformed hogwash. The speed of operation of the MZ-S is
> state-of-the-art. No
> camera out there let you set exposure as fast as the MZ-S. Exposure mode,
> metering 
> mode and settings can be done without taking the eye from the viewfinde and
> all can be 
> done in a second. For bird photography the MZ-S is a revelation compared to
> anything. 
> And who the hell use program mode for wildlife?

As long as you can wedge your thumb between the camera and the stupid
aperture ring on the pro glass; and as long as you want aperture priority OR
shutter priority, BUT NOT BOTH LIKE ON THE PZ-1. The exposure comp wheel on
the MZ-S has a spring loaded locking thingy, and is over on the left side of
the camera, crunched up with some other stuff whose functions currently
escape me because I don't have the camera in front of me; you need to look
at it to set it, at least until you are very sure of the functions; on the
PZ-1, the button is by your right thumb, and changes the control wheel to
exposure comp without moving the camera; I, however, rarely use it because
my current camera, the one Pentax designed over twelve years ago, has a
seperate thumb and finger wheel for aperture and shutter speed control, as
do most serious cameras these days, and you will never convince me that only
having shutter OR aperture control available on the camera, but not both, is
a good thing. It isn't, and since we can't have a discussion without you
hurtling insults, you're an idiot to think that it is.

Why don't you liven things up a little by making another bogus 'the flagship
is coming' claim? It will, if it ever does arrive, have seperate wheels for
Av and Tv (to the uninitiated, that is Aperture value and Time value) or it,
too, will be useless for anything but pictures of rocks.

Cameron 

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