Cameron wrote:

> I have never heard about a pro recommending a camera without seperate
> aperture and shutter speed controls, and even fewer actually using one.

I've never even heard about such a camera.


> And I, for one, appreciate the fact that you can instantly switch from
> aperture priority auto to shutter speed auto to full program with the PZ-1;
> a truly useful feature on a pro grade camera. Having access to a program
> shot is extremely convenient in fast moving and ever changing situations, as
> long as you can trust the exposure settings on the camera. Not everyone is
> shooting geological formations like yourself, or can afford to work at
> geological speed. Try shooting some dog trials sometime with your aperture
> ring and depth of field preview; you'll miss most of the shots, not to
> mention all the shots you'll miss because of the 2.5 (if that) frames a
> second capabilities of the camera.


I've never heard about any action and wildife shooter who do not use aperture priority 
auto. The MZ-S is the fastest operating camera out there provided you don't use 
program mode (which very few advance users do). A shame, though, about the max 2,5fps 
rate. 


> As long as you can wedge your thumb between the camera and the stupid
> aperture ring on the pro glass; and as long as you want aperture priority OR
> shutter priority, BUT NOT BOTH LIKE ON THE PZ-1. 


Right. Hardly anyone use cameras in a way that the Z-1p system makes sense. I'm sure 
you do. Most use the camera in aperture priority mode and manual and for this the MZ-S 
is unsurpassed. 


>The exposure comp wheel on
> the MZ-S has a spring loaded locking thingy, and is over on the left side of
> the camera, crunched up with some other stuff whose functions currently
> escape me because I don't have the camera in front of me; you need to look
> at it to set it, at least until you are very sure of the functions; on the
> PZ-1, the button is by your right thumb, and changes the control wheel to
> exposure comp without moving the camera; 

Thats the beauty of the MZ-S. You don't need exposure compensation because any 
exposure and any possible permutation of aperture and shutterspeed is instantly 
available by simply dialing it in. The Z-1p needs compensation because theres no other 
way of reaching the desired exposure without pressing one button and dialing three 
wheels. Try to see what the MZ-S does best and use it that way. The same with the 
Z-1p. 


>I, however, rarely use it because
> my current camera, the one Pentax designed over twelve years ago, has a
> seperate thumb and finger wheel for aperture and shutter speed control, as
> do most serious cameras these days, and you will never convince me that only
> having shutter OR aperture control available on the camera, but not both, is
> a good thing. 


Both are available. You may prefer to have the aperture ring located a particular 
place befre another but claiming adjusting the aperture from the lens is slower 
doesn't make it true. 

P�l


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