Steve Allen wrote:
Hello All,
I'm still searching for the best path to collaborate with my customer. I wasn't very explicit in describing my needs. My customer is providing the schematic and I'll be doing the board layout.
Initially, I thought it would be best for him to a purchase the 99SE suite. Costs make this prohibitive. I've had one offer to sell me a valid license at $3000 and another offer to sell me an invalid license (at an undetermined price).
"Upgrading" to P2004 seems the only path Altium offers. They appear wiling to offer a discount . The Altium consultant says, " I would have to talk to my manger and the discount would be about $4500 off. " I'm not sure what conditions and restrictions would apply. Altium will not sell P99SE Schematic Capture packages.
Where does this leave me? It's looking like a 3rd party schematic capture and net list import would be the best solution. Protel 99SE Help says that Protel & Protel2 net lists are the two compatible formats. I have a few questions about net list import.
1. Which format import will import best? It looks like Protel2 net lists have more information.
2. Can any of you recommend a 3rd part Schematic Capture capable of generating a Protel compatible net lists? It needs to be relatively inexpensive.
3. What tips can you offer for net list import? It looks like I'll have the ability to assign land patterns at time of import. Usually, the schematic evolves during layout. On the surface, it appears that I might be forced to re-enter all the land patterns unless the schematic capture package is capable of back annotating from the netlist. Is this true?
I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions.
Thanks again, Steve
At 08:38 AM 4/7/2005, you wrote:
Hello,
I'm working with a customer that has interest in purchasing his own copy of P99SE. I'm hoping some of you can help answer some questions we have.
1. I thought I saw a PEDA post that indicated that Protel no longer offers upgrade discounts from P99SE to Protel 2004. Is this still true?
2. Is there still a Protel 99SE resale market?
3. If so, what's a used copy of 99SE selling for?
Thanks for the help.
Steve
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Hello Steve
The easy thing for you is to have your customer get hold of a P99SE schematic. It give you the advantage to have better error handling when you update the PCB from the schematic editor, than using the importing net list feature. It also makes it possible for you to put in landmark (footprints) into the schematic.
But one thing to make clear is who is in charge of the net list, e.g. if you are making the net list the responsibility changes, there are no clear limit between you and the customer. My experience is that making the customer aware of the landmark problem he is force to take more aspects into account. Like a D-SUB25 has two extra holes for mounting are they connected? Or where is pin 1 on a square flat pack in the corner or in the middle on one side.
You can not hide your error on the finished PCB, so better to have your customer do them.
Another thing is editing a net list in notepad is not fun.
But P99SE is not the future, if you are going for Windows XP SP2 you will lose some thing in P99SE. Hole editor will disappear, moving designator automatically will disappear and adding to a selection is not possible. If you run remote desktop at the same time of P99SE it will fail.
regards Soren Andersen
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