Jerry C., List: Again, Val invoked consensus and correspondence, not coherence and correspondence. Frankly, I am not sure exactly what to make of "truth by concordance"; I am hoping that Val and/or Jon A. will elaborate on what they meant by that suggestion. I now see that perhaps you were proposing "order" and "index" as two possible synonyms for "concordance." I took them to be invoking it more as "agreement," given the reference to "triple correspondence" in a triadic relation; i.e., consistency of the sign, object, and interpretant.
Regards, Jon S. On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Jerry LR Chandler < [email protected]> wrote: > Jon: > > the phrase: > > "by adding, Truth by "concordance” " > > What is your interpretation of this phrase? > > (Within philosophical writings, the two principle theories of truth are > referred to as “coherence” and “correspondence”. In my view, CSP focused > his logic on correspondence between signs and logical arguments.) > > Cheers > > Jerry > > On Mar 13, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Jerry C.: I am a bit puzzled by your questions, since there was no > mention of "order," "index," or "inferring" in the preceding posts by Jon > A. and Val. Which three concepts are you seeking to bind together? > > Val: Besides consensus and correspondence, you left out the coherence and > pragmatic/instrumental theories of truth as espoused by nominalists. > Again, I am inclined to agree with Forster that Peirce's realist approach > satisfies all of these, rather than reducing truth to only one of them. > > Regards, > > Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA > Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman > www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt> - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Jerry LR Chandler < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> List: >> >> I am a bit puzzled by this suggestion. >> >> Concordance? >> “Order” (inferring numerical order and mathematics? >> “Index" as a categorization? >> >> Are propositions inferred by “concordances”? >> >> Or what is the glue that binds the three concepts together? >> Can anyone expand on this proposal? >> >> Cheers >> >> Jerry >> >> > On Mar 13, 2017, at 1:02 PM, E Valentine Daniel <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > Dear Jon and Peirces, >> > I propose that we complete the customary (incomplete/dyadic) theories >> of truth, viz., by consensus and by correspondence, by adding, Truth by >> "concordance" (what you, Jon, call "triple correspondence"). >> > val daniel >> > >> > E. Valentine Daniel >> > Professor of Anthropology >> > 958 Schermerhorn Ext., >> > Columbia University >> > New York, 10027 >> > >> > (917) 741-7764 >> > [email protected] >> > >> >> On Mar 13, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Jon Awbrey <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Peircers, >> >> >> >> Looking over these old articles it occurs to me >> >> there may be a few bits in them worth salvaging, >> >> so I started a blog series for attempting that: >> >> >> >> https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2017/03/11/pragmatic-theory-o >> f-truth-%e2%80%a2-1/ >> >> >> >> I think John Sowa's remarks about the “major failures caused by >> ignoring [Peirce]” >> >> and Jerry Chandler's remarks about later readings serving as a >> “Procrustian bed >> >> for CSP's concepts” are very apt in this context, and I will have more >> to say >> >> in that regard if I can get to it. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Jon >> >> >> >> On 3/10/2017 4:18 PM, Jon Awbrey wrote: >> >>> Peircers, >> >>> >> >>> I haven't looked at these articles since the days I wasted >> >>> trying to justify the ways of Peirce to Wikipediots, other >> >>> than to reformat them a little here and there, but some of >> >>> their material may be instructive for ongoing discussions, >> >>> especially the quotes from Peirce and Kant on the nominal >> >>> character of truth definitions in terms of correspondence. >> >>> To make the shortest possible shrift, I think we have to >> >>> keep in mind that “correspondence” for Peirce can mean >> >>> “triple correspondence”, in other words, just another >> >>> name for a triadic relation. >> >>> >> >>> Note. The document histories of these InterSciWiki forks >> >>> tell me that these drafts derive from Wikipedia revisions >> >>> of 14 Feb 2007 and 29 Jun 2006, respectively. >> >>> >> >>> http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Pragmatic_theory_of_truth >> >>> >> >>> http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/Correspondence_the >> ory_of_truth >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> Jon >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> inquiry into inquiry: https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/ >> >> academia: https://independent.academia.edu/JonAwbrey >> >> oeiswiki: https://www.oeis.org/wiki/User:Jon_Awbrey >> >> isw: http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/JLA >> >> facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/JonnyCache >> >
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