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        Yes, but I'm trying to emphasize, or perhaps remind ourselves, that
Peircean semiotics is not expressed simply in language and/or logic,
but in its pragmatic application to material life. That is - there
are three 'parts' so to speak; language/logic/pragmatic application.

        My concern is that much of the focus of our examination of Peirce is
often on terminology, on which term he used for..___. Since Peirce
often changed these terms, then, to me, they are not the vital ground
of Peircean semiosis and even sidesteps the fundamental nature of
Peircean semiotics - which is its pragmaticism. 

        And an ever-present danger when we confine ourselves to this
rhetoric [but not logic] - is that easy slip into Platonic idealism -
which actually denies pragmaticism because it separates Mind and
Matter. 

        Edwina
 On Thu 06/09/18 11:35 AM , John F Sowa [email protected] sent:
 On 9/6/2018 11:07 AM, Edwina Taborsky wrote: 
 > I agree with your linking Peirce's semiotic with his logic, but  
 > my concern is that one can lose the vital nature of Peirce;
namely,  
 > that his logic-as-formal semiotic is a pragmatic system. 
 I agree with your concerns.  I know many logicians who get lost 
 in the technical details and ignore all the issues about relating 
 logic to language, thought, and life. 
 I also admit that it's much easier to write many pages of ordinary 
 language than to write a few lines of precisely stated mathematics 
 or mathematical logic.  Peirce knew that.  But he also knew that 
 precision required a restatement in terms of some version of logic. 
 Basic point:  It's vastly easier to translate logic to language, 
 than to translate language to logic.  But the exercise of writing 
 the logic is necessary for precision. 
 John 
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