On 10 January 2014 10:41, kilon alios <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree this is an excellent way to educate people at worse they can > become pyromaniacs. > > > There's sheer number of people who like to hurt themselves.. i doubt there's anything you can do about it and (re)educate them that this is bad. Exceptions only confirm the rule :)
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Igor Stasenko <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> >> >> On 9 January 2014 22:30, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I don't think Igor meant punishment as a tool, but rather experience >>> something negative for yourself. >>> >>> right.. punishment as consequence of your own deeds, but not punishment >> as a tool, >> which you using against someone. >> >> >>> I am sure that if you think back at your own development, there were >>> instances where you did not listen to adults warning you and only learned >>> certain things the hard way. >>> >>> why hard way? i think it is most easy way: you can explain for years to >> people why they have to be careful with fire.. instead of letting them to >> verify it and very fast and easy get to the same conclusion. >> >> >> >>> Anyway, we're getting way off topic ;-) >>> >>> On 09 Jan 2014, at 22:25, Stephan Eggermont <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > Igor, >>> > >>> > The way you describe the role of punishment in education is not in >>> line with current research. Most learning happens trough copying the >>> behavior of others, and punishment has a number of negative consequences on >>> character development, making it a non-suitable instrument. You might want >>> to take a look at the work done by Marshall Rosenberg on non-violent >>> communication. >>> > >>> > Stephan >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
