Hi there This Berliner has a second decal on the other side that says 'Cie Francaise du gramophone No. 2172'. I can't see the Berliner decal very clearly (I have only seen photos so far) but when and if I go see it in person, I will make sure the decal is in English. This was the issue, I know that foreign made machines don't seem to do as well with American buyers. I will guage the screw threads to make sure they are not metric. I have had a repro of this type myself, and I know what to look for on that count. The horn is an obvious original horn, though perhaps not original to this model. The horn is nickel plated, with a bell joined to the body with a seam. The bell is a bit bent but pretty nice. The body has obvious spots when plating is mottled a bit. The hold down looks as if it is the tye with the hole all the way through, as it should be. I just want to be sure this machine is not a marriage of old and new. The motor housing looks as it should. The crank is not the flat bar type, it is more like an early Victor slip on crank with the slight offset in the winding arm. I will let you guys know what happens. Thanks! John
Sean Miller <smille1 at nycap.rr.com> wrote: Hi John, I'll ignore what Bob says here, that was rather cold. While I don't know much about Berliners, I'd say $3500-4000 resale for a complete, all original Berliner in decent enough shape shouldn't be asking too much. I hope others with more know-how in the Berliner department can make this a little more accurate than I. Sorry to hear about the hard times, I can relate! Sean -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 8:21 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Berliner The tone of that response sounded sort of pointed, but I will overlook that. This group has always been helpful to those seeking assistance, and I have been a collector for over 25 years but I have never had a Berliner nor done much research on it. This is an original machine, and the price being asked is decent, that I know. My quandary is what a fair resale price would be, emphasis on fair. I think the last time I saw one sell, it was about $3500. If I can buy this one, resell for a fair price to someone on the board who wants it, and gain some money towards another mortgage payment, I will be happy. I am just trying to stave off homelessness for awhile, Not that it is that bad, we have three months savings. But when you get laid off and start to see those saving dwindle, you become conscious of every penny. Bob wrote: You sound like someone dabbling in the stock market without th eslightest idea of what he's doinng and then asking for tips from the guys selling you sth estocks. Ifyou don't have the knowledge or experience to decide what is a good deal on this machine I suggest you pass. ----- Original Message ----- From: "john robles" To: Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Berliner > Hey all > I have a line on a Berliner Trademark machine for a reasonable price. > Since my partner has been laid off and money may become an issue, I am > thinking of buying it for resale. My dilemma - never having shopped for > one, I am not sure what a good price to ask would be. Another dilemma - > asking you guys is sort of hard, because if I sell it here one of you may > want it. Since I would resell it to help with the mortgage, I need a to > get a good price, but I would want to give the list a deal too. Woe is > me.... > Any advice on fair price would be helpful. > Thanks > John Robles > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1502 - Release Date: 6/13/2008 7:25 PM _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
