Hey John,
I remember seeing a trademark at the Wayne show about four years ago. 
It was very beautiful but had been restored with a significant 
percentage of repro parts. The price was $1500 for that one. So, 
$3500 can be quite reasonable for a fully original trademark.
Good luck!
Norman


At 04:34 15.06.2008, you wrote:
>Hi there
>   This Berliner has a second decal on the other side that says 'Cie 
> Francaise du gramophone No. 2172'. I can't see the Berliner decal 
> very clearly (I have only seen photos so far) but when and if I go 
> see it in person, I will make sure the decal is in English. This 
> was the issue, I know that foreign made machines don't seem to do 
> as well with American buyers. I will guage the screw threads to 
> make sure they are not metric. I have had a repro of this type 
> myself, and I know what to look for on that count. The horn is an 
> obvious original horn, though perhaps not original to this model. 
> The horn is nickel plated, with a bell joined to the body with a 
> seam. The bell is a bit bent but pretty nice. The body has obvious 
> spots when plating is mottled a bit.
>   The hold down looks as if it is the tye with the hole all the way 
> through, as it should be. I just want to be sure this machine is 
> not a marriage of old and new. The motor housing looks as it 
> should. The crank is not the flat bar type, it is more like an 
> early Victor slip on crank with the slight offset in the winding arm.
>   I will let you guys know what happens.
>   Thanks!
>   John

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