I'm completely agree (my breath is fine, though :)
Zeev
At 17:52 21/3/2001, Cynic wrote:
>Sascha & Zeev,
>
>May I please ask you to calm down a bit? Flamewars and insults
>won't help anyone.
>
>I think you both could use a few minutes to take your breath.
>
>
>At 16:38 21.3. 2001, Zeev Suraski wrote the following:
>--------------------------------------------------------------
> >At 17:15 21/3/2001, Sascha Schumann wrote:
> >>> I definitely don't agree with this definitely. A good thing about
> >>> opensource projects is that there aren't committees and thick rule books
> >>> that move and act at the speed of a dinosaur. When it begins to look
> that
> >>> way, you know you're in the wrong direction.
> >>
> >> OpenSource does not mean careless committers and bug-riddled
> >> software. OpenSource software can excel in code quality and
> >> stableness.
> >>
> >> Your personal goal seems to differ from that target. I think
> >> that is a pity.
> >
> >Your argumentative tone is also a pity.
> >
> >As for the issue at hand, we differ greatly at the amount of importance
> we attribute to considering rules as if they were God-given. I care
> about PHP's quality a lot, quite before you were even a contributor to
> the project. I'm not coming to downplay your caring, but I'm not sure
> what makes you think you can downplay mine.
> >
> >The fact that you see what I say as if opensource software means
> bug-riddled software or careless committers still doesn't mean that's
> what I'm saying, and obviously (as I'm sure you know deep inside), it's
> not. That's just your binary way of looking at things, which is
> thankfully not shared by most people. I stand completely behind what I
> said, but obviously not behind your summary of what I said.
> >
> >The bottom line is that, as I said, the trick in good opensource
> software is taking calculated risks, and mixing agility with quality
> assurance. One can look through your binary glasses, and then it's
> either complete lack of quality, or complete lack of risks, and one can
> look with reasonable experienced eyes and strive to get to the right
> mixture. I, for one, don't enjoy looking through these binary glasses.
> >
> >Zeev
> >
> >
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>And the eyes of them both were opened and they saw that their files
>were world readable and writable, so they chmoded 600 their files.
> - Book of Installation chapt 3 sec 7
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