On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Tony
Marston<t...@marston-home.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> "Stuart" <stut...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a5f019de0907090340k47216f7fh4d83434ef98ce...@mail.gmail.com...
> 2009/7/9 Tony Marston <t...@marston-home.demon.co.uk>:
> <snip>
>> I thought of a better analogy. You ever been on the London
>> Underground? There's a rule that says you stand on the right-hand side
>> of escalators. This has no benefit to you, the one who stands there
>> while the elevator does all the work, but it means those of us who
>> want to walk up the escalator can do so without having to ask everyone
>> to move out of the way. The benefit of this rule is to other people
>> not you, but does that make it a bad rule?
> Your analogy is urealistic as my choice of top posting has absolutely no
> effect on any other message is the newsgroup. It has no absolutely no effect
> on the reader unless the reader chooses to take offence.
> The first newsgroups I visited after getting my first PC not only allowed
> top posting, they actively encouraged it, yet no-one complained if someone
> put  their post on the bottom. They were tolerant, you see, because it
> didn't really matter.
> Your intolerant attitude on this issue shows just what a small-minded person
> you are.
>> I reckon it's the same with
>> the way you arrange your messages to this list. Top-posting is a lazy
>> and selfish way to "contribute" to the list,
> That is opinion, not fact. Other newsgroups allow top posting, so why not
> this newsgroup? Just because someone says so? That's simply not good enough.
>> especially when you know
>> what the rule/convention is. It's worth noting that bottom-posting
>> without efficient quoting is just as bad IMHO as top-posting.
> There you go with your personal opinions again.
>> Anyway, it's clear that you're not willing to do the polite thing on
>> this issue, so I don't see any point in continuing to discuss it.
>> -Stuart
> Good. So stop discussing it.
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The only thing I don't agree with here is the name calling. Daniel is
a pretty darn bright guy here, and I feel that slighting him because
of an established convention is not the best approach to dealing with
this. We are all voluntary participants on this list and we all make
valuable contributions to the PHP community.

Conventions were implemented to make things easier for participants to
view a standard thread in the list. We don't have to like it, but that
is no reason to digress into a pissing match over how the rules are
not sensible to any specific point of view. I have found that moving
to the gmail client makes the rules more sensible as that is how gmail
displays the emails. Both hotmail and outlook make this tougher as
they don't logically display the thread. Might I suggest that you try
using gmail (some one posted that your client was outlook which is why
I suggest this)? Its a pain, if you have a history with the list that
you store on your machine, but it might be worthwhile exploring.



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