intelijensi lu ngga cukup buat ngerti yg begituan. --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@...> wrote: > > Hehehe... apa di tv ditunjukin Soeharto digusur mahasiswa, atau Soeharto yg > bilang dia mundur sendiri? > > > > > > >________________________________ > > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@...> > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:49 AM > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah (Teddy bangsat itu, > >katanya, tidak peduli..) > > > > > > > > > > > >ngga punya tv ya? > >pantesan sok tau dan goblok. > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> > >> Dungu, Soeharto itu mundur krn dikhianati oleh penjilat pantatnya yg > >> antara lain bikin rusuh tgl 13-14 Mei 1998. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >________________________________ > >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > >> >To: [email protected] > >> >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 4:03 PM > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah (Teddy bangsat itu, > >> >katanya, tidak peduli..) > >> > > >> > > >> >à> >> > > >> > > >> >oh gitu blek. > >> >jadi suharto jatoh karena siapa? si juplik? > >> > > >> >bentar gua mau ke toilet dulu, ngedadak mules nih nahan ketawa. > >> > > >> >WKWKWKKWKWKWKKWKWKWKKWK! > >> > > >> >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Cuma orang tolol yg bilang bhw yg ngejatohin orba itu adalah demo > >> >> mahasiswa. > >> >> > >> >> Kalo ngeliat kelakuan mahasiswa, hehehe... mereka itu doyan saling > >> >> tawuran antar sesama mahasiswa. Yg kayak gini ngejatohin orba? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >________________________________ > >> >> > From: johny_indon <johny_indon@> > >> >> >To: [email protected] > >> >> >Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 9:34 AM > >> >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah (Teddy bangsat itu, > >> >> >katanya, tidak peduli..) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Ãâà> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >buset dah. > >> >> >lu itu ngerasa berjasa banget atas kejatuhan orba ya plik? > >> >> >emang yg lu lakukan itu, ngobrolin soal indonesia sambil minum anggur, > >> >> >lu anggap usaha yg luar biasa ya? > >> >> > > >> >> >semua orang indo tau yg menjatuhkan orba itu ya demo mahasiswa, bukan > >> >> >gembel ngga jelas yg tinggal enak2 di belanda kayak elu. > >> >> > > >> >> >lu bayar pajak di indonesia aja kagak, mau sok merasa punya > >> >> >kontribusi buat indonesia. > >> >> >jangan2 lu ke luar negri juga pake duit negara ya plik? > >> >> >lu itu manusia tak berguna, sebelum maupun setelah kejatuhan orba. > >> >> >buat indonesia, elu adalah sampah yg bahkan ngga bisa di daur ulang. > >> >> > > >> >> >lu emang tua bangke yg ngga tau malu plik. > >> >> > > >> >> >--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > >> >> >wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Pertama: menolak undangan bedebah, seerti yagn dilakukan item abu > >> >> >> itu artinya tidak berdiam diri dihadapan kejahatan yang dilakukan > >> >> >> bedebah itu. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Kedua: sepanjang yang menyangkut kegiatan saya sejak tahun 1972 > >> >> >> hingga Orde Naru jatuh, saya bisa bilang, disamping mendiang Ernst > >> >> >> Utrecht dan sahabat saya Lim, saya adalah orang Indonesia yang dari > >> >> >> negeri Belanda yang ikut mendukung usaha orang di Indonesia > >> >> >> menjatuhkan Orde Baru. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Saya tidak sekedar bersenang-senang di negeri orang menikmati > >> >> >> jaminan sosial dan jaminan ksehatan yagn aduhai seperti anda yagn > >> >> >> adalah manusia oportunis yang bertabiat busuk, nista lagi > >> >> >> menjijikkan. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Ha ha ha. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Tidak datang memenuhi undangan dan membenturkan kepala sendiri ke > >> >> >> > tembok itu sama-sama tak ada artinya. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Coba anda bercermin diri dan melihat apakah ada perubahan besar > >> >> >> > yang telah terjadi di Indonesia yang merupakan hasil "perjuangan" > >> >> >> > anda selama ini? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Di sini semuanya tidak gratis dan malahan saya masih menyumbang > >> >> >> > orang lain. Sementara ada cukup banyak yang menjadi 'dole > >> >> >> > bludgers' yang sebagiannya enak-enak berselancar tiap harinya. > >> >> >> > Anda kira orang-orang ini pantas menerima santunan? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> > >> >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > "item abu" menyatakan pendapatnya dengan tidak datang memenuhi > >> >> >> > > undangan yang disampaikan kepadanya.. > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > Ini satu. > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > Yagn kedua: anda itu oportunis busuk, nisgtfa lagi menjijikkan > >> >> >> > > karena anda enak-enak hidup di negeri yang punya jaminan sosial > >> >> >> > > dan jaminan kesehatan yagn aduhai, hasil perjuangan orang yang > >> >> >> > > peduli akan kesenjangan sosial, lalua nda bicara tentang mobil > >> >> >> > > mewah dan anda tidak peduli dengan kejahatan yang dilakukan oleh > >> >> >> > > para bedebah yang menjarah khasanah negara Indonsia - sembari > >> >> >> > > merek menghina korban jarahannnnya yang jadi melarat dengan > >> >> >> > > petatagng petiting dengan mobil mewah hasil jarahannya. > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > Anda itu betulk-betul adalah bangsat oppotunis busuk, nista lagi > >> >> >> > > menjijikkan. > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > Tidak usah jauh-jauh, tuh protege satu-satunya kebanggan anda > >> >> >> > > > tidak berani mengungkapkan pendapatnya sendiri pada tetangga > >> >> >> > > > yang tinggal di depan rumahnya. Itu yang jelas-jelas langkah > >> >> >> > > > yang merupakan feedback langsung dan mungkin, ini sih masih > >> >> >> > > > mungkin bisa memberikan perubahan. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > Apa haknya saya mencampuri yang bukan wewenang saya karena > >> >> >> > > > mereka tidak mewakili saya? Anda mau mencampuri, maka itu > >> >> >> > > > urusan anda sendiri. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > Saya membayar restribusi untuk semua fasilitas yang saya dan > >> >> >> > > > ibu saya terima di Australia. Kalau dihitung hingga dengan > >> >> >> > > > sen-sen yang dikeluarkan, maka kontribusi saya selama ini > >> >> >> > > > masih lebih banyak daripada nilai fasilitas yang didapat. Jadi > >> >> >> > > > ini tidak gratis dan saya malah menyumbang untuk orang lain > >> >> >> > > > selama ini. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > Jadi fasilitas ini tidak gratis dan saya membayar penuh. > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" > >> >> >> > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Betul-betul bajingan tengik. > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Betul-betul bangsat keparat. > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Betul-betul manusia oportunis bertabiat busuk, nista lagi > >> >> >> > > > > menjijikkan. > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Bukan urusannya, katanya, pejabat Indonesia menjarah > >> >> >> > > > > khasanah negara Indonesia dan menjadikan Indonesia dedel > >> >> >> > > > > duwel lalu menghina korban jarahannnya yang > >> >> >> > > > > dimelaratkannnya sembari petatang petiting pamer mobil > >> >> >> > > > > mewah dan pamer kekayaan.. > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Saat dia, Teddy, menikmati jaminan kesehatan yang aduhai di > >> >> >> > > > > Austrlia, hasil perjuangan orang Australia yang seperti item > >> >> >> > > > > abu peduli terhadap kesenjangan sosial. > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Selanjutnya: tidak peduli dengan adanya kejahatan yang > >> >> >> > > > > dilakukan pejabat bedebah di Indonesia itu hakekatnya > >> >> >> > > > > berpihak kepada pejabat penjahat itu. > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > Ada perbedaan besar antara berfihak dan tidak peduli. > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" > >> >> >> > > > > > <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > Asyik... > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > Sekarang Teddy berpihak kepada penguasa bedebah di > >> >> >> > > > > > > Indonesia yang petatang petiting pamer hasil jarahan > >> >> >> > > > > > > mereka... > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > Dan di Indonesia mobil mahal itu adalah sinonim dengan > >> >> >> > > > > > > mobil mewah... > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> > >> >> >> > > > > > > wrote: > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > Gawat, si belegug ini kagak bisa menyimak. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > Lu jelas-jelas terobsesi dengan mobil-mobil mewah di > >> >> >> > > > > > > > mana lu punya definisi sendiri untuk yang namanya > >> >> >> > > > > > > > mobil-mobil mewah. Buat lu asal harganya relatif > >> >> >> > > > > > > > mahal, maka itu pastilah mobil mewah. Padahal > >> >> >> > > > > > > > mobil-mobil pejabat yang lu recokin itu tidak termasuk > >> >> >> > > > > > > > kategori mobil-mobil mewah dalam definisi standar > >> >> >> > > > > > > > seperti yang disebutkan dalam WIKIPEDIA. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > Gua dalam hal ini tidak terlibat. Hak sang pejabat > >> >> >> > > > > > > > untuk punya mobil apapun juga. Gua sih sama sekali > >> >> >> > > > > > > > tidak peduli karena bukan urusan gua. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > wrote: > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Hehehe.. si keparat Teddy ini muter2 lidah dan > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > nambah dosanya dgn bikin fitnah baru. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Gua cuma minta si Teddy ngebuktikan ocehannya > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > sendiri, lalu si Teddy ngoceh seolah2 gua pernah > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > ngelarang dia make duitnya sendiri. Kapan tuh gua > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > pernah ngelarang si Teddy make duitnya sendiri > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > sesuka hatinya? Yg gua bilang adalah si Teddy adalah > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > bajingan rakus dan serakah, bajingan yg ga peduli > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > dgn orang lain, bukan ngelarang si Teddy make duit > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > sesuka hatinya. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Udah jelas si Teddy ini ga bisa ngebuktikan > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > ocehannya, tp dasar bajingan ga tau malu, dia msh ga > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > mau ngaku bhw mulutnya adalah lobang taik, padahal > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > dia sendiri yg bilang kalo orang ga bisa ngebuktikan > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > omongannya, maka ybs itu bermulut lobang taik. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Emang tuh, dr mulut anjing ga akan tumbuh gading. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >To: [email protected] > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:03 AM > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >Gua kagak pernah secara explisit menyebut > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >mobil-mobil mewah seperti yang lu lakukan. Peduli > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >amat dengan orang-orang yang memilikinya, karena > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >itu urusan pribadi orang. Hak orang untuk punya dan > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >yang pasti duitnya bukan dari lu. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], item abu > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > ><itemabu@> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> Dan lu kaing2 gua terobsesi oleh mobil mewah. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> Dasar mulut lobang taik lu ini. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >________________________________ > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >To: [email protected] > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:45 AM > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >mewah > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >ÃÆ'Ã'âââÂ¬Ã Â¡ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >Terjemahan dari google karena takutnya kesulitan > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >menterjemahkan: > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> Ada mobil ultra-tinggi kinerja dari "merek > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> eksotis" yang juga melebihi US $ 100.000, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> tetapi belum tentu dikategorikan sebagai > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> mobil mewah, seperti sebagai mobil sport dari > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> Ferrari, Lamborghini dan Porsche, meskipun > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> Porsche Panamera bersaing dalam kemewahan > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> high-end / ukuran penuh kategori mewah. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >--- In [email protected], "Teddy S." > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> ><teddyr@> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Sudah terbukti anda yang dungu tapi tidak mau > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> langsung mengaku dan orang yang berotak busuk, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> nista lagi menjijikan adalah orang yang > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> fikiran-fikirannya saling bertentangan dan > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> hanya mementingkan glorifikasi pribadi sendiri. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Baca dengan cermat DEFINISI mobil mewah di > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> mana unsur HARGA bukanlah satu-satunya > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> kriteria. Semua orang normal akan tahu bahwa > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Ferrari itu merk sebuah mobil sport. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Kalau memang anda cermerlang tentunya anda > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> akan mampu merubah definisi yang diberikan > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> WIKIPEDIA hingga WIKIPEDIA mau meralat dan > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> memasukan Ferrari sebagai salah satu mobil > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> yang termasuk dalam klasifikasi mobil mewah. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Saya tantang anda untuk melakukan hal itu > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> terhadap WIKIPEDIA. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Sekali lagi untuk yang diragukan apakah mereka > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> punya mata atau cuma baso doang. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "exotic brands" that also exceed > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > US$100,000, but would not necessarily be > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > categorized as luxury automobiles, such as > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the sports cars from Ferrari, Lamborghini > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Porsche, although the Porsche Panamera > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > does compete in the high-end > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury/full-size luxury category. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> --- In [email protected], "Bukan > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > Saya kutip, tanpa komentar karena begitu > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > jelas dungunya, referensi Teddy yang > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > adalah manusia oportunis berotak busuk, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > nista lagi menjijikkan ini tentang mobil > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > mewah: > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > "Dengan demikian bisa dikatakan Ferrari > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > TIDAK termasuk kedalam kelas mobil > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > mewah, walau harganya sendiri relatif mahal. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > " > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > <teddyr@> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Aneh bin ajaib kalau ada orang yang merasa > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dirinya demikian pintar dan rajin > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > menggugel dalam hal-hal lain, tapi masih > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > ngotot dengan definisinya sendiri atas > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "mobil-mobil mewah". > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mumpung masih pagi dan ada sedikit waktu, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > jadi bolehlah sedikit berbelas kasihan > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > meluangkan waktu untuk membantu membuka > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mata. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > --- > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Luxury vehicle is a marketing term for a > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > vehicle that provides luxury > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > ÃÆ'Ã'ÃâÃÂ¢ÃÆ'ââââ¬à ¡Ãâì" > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > pleasant or desirable features beyond > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > strict > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > necessityÃÆ'Ã'ÃâÃÂ¢ÃÆ'ââââ¬à ¡Ãâì"at > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > increased expense (see: definition of > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury). The term suggests a vehicle with > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > greater equipment, performance, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > construction precision, comfort, design > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > ingenuity, technological innovation, or > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > features that convey brand image, cachet, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > status, or > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > prestigeÃÆ'Ã'ÃâÃÂ¢ÃÆ'ââââ¬à ¡Ãâì"or > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > any other discretionary feature or > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > combination of features. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Luxury market segments > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Premium compact segment > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The premium compact segment[clarification > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > needed] or small-luxury class is > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > relatively new, having been initiated by > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > several European brands in the mid-2000s, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and constitute the least expensive > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > offerings in their lineups. These cars are > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > targeted at a niche market of young > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > customers who have a more refined taste in > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > their automobiles and the means to pay for > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > them.[citation needed] By offering a > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > smaller, lighter, more fuel-efficient, and > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > less expensive vehicle, this serves to > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > introduce a younger customer to the luxury > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > marque, in hopes of retaining the coveted > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > customer loyalty.[citation needed] This > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > includes the Audi A3, BMW 1 Series, Lexus > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > CT, and Mercedes-Benz B-Class. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Premium compacts may share components with > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mass market cars from the marque's parent > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > company (the A3), and/or have less > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sophisticated platforms compared to > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > upmarket vehicles in the lineup (such as > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the B-Class). The body style tends to be a > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > hatchback or compact wagon, previously > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > associated with economy cars but regaining > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > popularity in the United States for its > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > afforded utility. The luxury branding and > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > style, high-quality interior materials, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > wide range of convenience features, and > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > performance powertrains are key to > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > distinguishing them from mass market > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > equivalents (one mistake made by the > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Cadillac Cimarron) and making these appeal > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > to consumers. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The classification varies, for instance > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Consumer Guide Automotive in the US > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > considers the Audi A3 and A4 as part of > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the premium compact segment due to similar > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > size and MSRP, though these are known in > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Europe as a small family car and a compact > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive car, respectively. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Entry-level luxury/compact executive cars > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The entry-level luxury category is also > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > known as the compact executive car in > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Britain and (Mittelklasse in German). In > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the US, this segment mostly includes the > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > bottom vehicles in the line-up of luxury > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands as well as the top-of-the-line > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > models of some non-luxury brands. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Dimensionally, compact executive cars are > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > smaller than mid-size/large family cars, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and sometimes even smaller than compact > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars. Mass market compact cars typically > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > use the economical front wheel drive > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > transverse engine layout, well suited to > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the inline-4 engine, which also maximizes > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > interior room. Several compact executive > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars are rear-wheel drive with > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > longitudinal engines, for improved > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > stability and handling, and in order to > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > accommodate the larger size of > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > higher-performance engines (straight-6, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > V6, rarely V8), with four-wheel drive > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > often being available. Compact executive > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars also tend have more complicated > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > independent suspensions, sportier > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > transmissions, and high revolution engines > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > that may require premium gasoline. The > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > more complex powertrain and mechanical > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > layouts of compact executive cars comes at > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > increased cost and reduced interior > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > passenger and trunk space. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Compact executive cars include the Volvo > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > S60, Acura TSX, Lexus IS, BMW 3 Series, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Audi A4, and Mercedes-Benz C-Class which > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > particularly emphasize sporty handling. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Other vehicles such as the Lexus ES, Acura > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > TL, Chrysler 300, and Buick LaCrosse are > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > also considered entry-level luxury in the > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > United States and Canada, being similar in > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > price to the BMW 3 Series and > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mercedes-Benz C-Class. However, the ES, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > TL, and LaCrosse are not sold in Europe > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and do not fall under European luxury > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > classifications. The ES and TL actually > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > began as badge engineered versions of the > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > midsize Toyota Camry and Honda Accord, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > respectively, retaining the front wheel > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > drive transverse engine layout, whereas > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Toyota's current Lexus IS does not share a > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > platform with mass market Toyota cars. The > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > ES and TL are not considered executive > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars either, despite similar dimensions, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > since executive cars usually emphasize > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > higher performance, often being rear-wheel > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > drive with longitudinal engines. The > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > present iterations of the ES and LaCrosse > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > emphasize "comfortable, reasonably priced > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury", while the TL has recently been > targeted > >> at > >> >> the entry-level > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > luxury > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> sport market. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Recently, the entry-level luxury has been > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > very competitive, and there has been > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > price-overlapping with well-equipped > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > non-luxury cars. The bestselling vehicles > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > of the marque are frequently compact > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars, such as the BMW 3 Series > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > that makes up 40% of the vehicles that BMW > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sells worldwide. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Mid-luxury/executive cars > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The mid-luxury segment are commonly > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > referred to as executive cars in Britain, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Obere Mittelklasse in German, and Grandes > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > RoutiÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâères > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > in French. Examples include the Volvo S80, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > BMW 5 Series, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, and > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Jaguar XF > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Although having similar dimensions to > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-size cars and large family cars, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars are engineered and > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > positioned as premium vehicles with better > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > performance and technology amenities. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are also higher development and > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > production costs, as many well-known > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-luxury cars use the longitudinal > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > (usually front engine rear wheel drive > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > layout) engine mounting which affords > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > space for powerful engines such as a V8, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > instead of the more economical transverse > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engine layout of mass market cars which > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > are restricted to inline-4 or V6. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Executive cars usually have lower sales > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and production volumes compared to > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-size cars and large family cars, as > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > base trims with less equipment and smaller > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > engines are not sold in U.S. and Canadian > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > markets. Also due to the problem of steep > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > depreciation, especially concerning cars > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > from less prestigious brands, most > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > executive cars are produced by marques > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > that specialize in larger/more expensive > >> >> vehicles. Particularly in > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> the United States, the mid-luxury segment is > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> dominated by Mercedes-Benz and BMW, as executive > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> cars from lesser-known manufacturers such as > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> CitroÃÆ'Ã'Ãâ 'ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâën and > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> Infiniti have not had much success. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Vehicles in this segment include the > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mid-range models of several luxury car > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > manufacturers. There are also some > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > flagship sedans in this segment, such as > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the Acura RL and Infiniti M. Executive > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars such as the BMW 5 Series are crucial > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > to a luxury automaker's bottom line, and > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > although not the highest-selling model, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > they generate a significant amount of > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > profits due to the lucrative technology > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > options. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > High-end luxury/full-size luxury cars > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Also known as full-size luxury cars, grand > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > saloons, or premium large cars, while > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "Oberklasse" is used in Germany. Many of > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > these are the marque's showcases for the > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > newest automotive technology. Several > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > nameplates also offer long-wheelbase > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > versions that offer additional rear > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > legroom and amenities. Full-size luxury > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars sold in Canada and the U.S. typically > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > have mid-displacement V8 engines, though > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > recently some marques have offered six > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cylinder powerplants but without much > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > success. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Vehicles in this category include some of > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the models from the flagship lines of > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury car brands. Examples include the > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ, Lexus > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > LS, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Phaeton, and in the US, the Lincoln Town > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Car and Cadillac DTS. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Ultra-luxury cars > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > R.L. Polk and Company, a global automotive > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > information and marketing firm that > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > provides solutions to automotive and > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > related industries, has defined the term > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "super luxury" segment for luxury cars > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > costing more than US$100,000. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > This bracket includes the entire lineup of > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Rolls Royce, Bentley, Aston Martin, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Maybach, and Maserati, as these marques do > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > not offer lower-priced offerings in the > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > entry-level luxury or mid-luxury segments > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > like more mainstream luxury brands like > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > BMW and Mercedes-Benz. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Rolls Royce and Bentley have attempted to > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > move downmarket somewhat with offerings > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > priced considerably lower than their > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > traditional offerings (Rolls Royce Phantom > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Bentley Mulsanne) such as the Rolls > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Royce Ghost and the Bentley Continental > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > GT, creating what Car and Driver describes > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > as the "entry-opulent segment". Bentley, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Maybach, and Rolls-Royce vehicles share > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > platforms and engines with other luxury > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > brands from their parent auto company, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > however Rolls-Royce and Bentley are > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > assembled in England (separate from the > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > rest of BMW and Volkswagen Group's > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > production plants) and this "exclusivity" > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > has made these British marques a sales > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > success. By comparison, Maybachs are built > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > alongside the Mercedes-Benz S-Class > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > flagship sedan which has explained why it > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > has not fared well in the market, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > furthermore the Maybach's pedigree was > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > virtually unknown outside of Germany > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > unlike its British rivals which have long > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > enjoyed renown > worldwide. A > >> >> Bentley executive was > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> quoted as saying "that the brand's exclusivity, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> history and obsessive luxury help to convince > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> customers that a Bentley is worth the price" > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> which is at least twice that of a flagship luxury > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> car from BMW or Mercedes-Benz. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > The top-performing variants of flagship > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > cars from Audi, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz are > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > often included here as well. They often > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > have 12-cylinder (usually V12) engines for > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > great refinement and smoothness, even > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > though contemporary V8 engines can make > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > similar output while being less expensive. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > While BMW sells far fewer V12-engined > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > 7-Series vehicles than V8 versions, the > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > V12 retains popularity in the US, China, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Russia, as well as maintaining the > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > marque's prestige in the luxury vehicle > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > market segment. These ultra-luxury trims > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > also feature standard luxury and > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > technology features that would be > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > considered optional on their V8 siblings. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "exotic brands" that also exceed > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > US$100,000, but would not necessarily be > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > categorized as luxury automobiles, such as > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the sports cars from Ferrari, Lamborghini > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Porsche, although the Porsche Panamera > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > does compete in the high-end > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury/full-size luxury category. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > --- > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Jadi berdasarkan informasi yang diberikan > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > oleh WIKIPEDIA, Toyota bukanlah merk mobil > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > mewah (baca lagi definisinya di atas) > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > untuk kelas mobil mewah Toyota punya merk > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sendiri, yaitu L.... (cari sendiri > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > jawabnya, jangan mau disuapin aja). > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Berdasarkan pernyataan WIKIPEDIA pada > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_vehicle: > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > "exotic brands" that also exceed > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > US$100,000, but would not necessarily be > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > categorized as luxury automobiles, such as > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > the sports cars from Ferrari, Lamborghini > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > and Porsche, although the Porsche Panamera > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > does compete in the high-end > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > luxury/full-size luxury category. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Dengan demikian bisa dikatakan Ferrari > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > TIDAK termasuk kedalam kelas mobil mewah, > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > walau harganya sendiri relatif mahal. Saat > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dulu berdiskusi dengan johny, kami sedang > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > memperbincangkan kenikmatan berkendaraan > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > dengan akselerasi tinggi, bukannya > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > memperbincangkan mobil mewah. Baca lagi > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > itu tulisan. Mengutip kata-kata guru > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > wanita SMA kami di Bandung dulu (kebetulan > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > beliau berdarah Ambon) yang mengajar > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > pelajaran bahasa Jerman: "Meneer, itu mata > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > apa baso, Meneer?" > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > Gaploki kepala sendiri 10 kali karena > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sudah membuang waku orang untuk > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > menerangkan sesuatu yang bisa dicari > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > sendiri. > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> removed] > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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