Betul ga yg gua bilang, si Teddy ini ga peduli dgn orang miskin. Bajingan keparat si Teddy ini, bukan?
>________________________________ > From: Teddy S. <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 11:12 PM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah > > > >Ada perbedaan besar antara berfihak dan tidak peduli. > >--- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@...> wrote: >> >> Asyik... >> >> Sekarang Teddy berpihak kepada penguasa bedebah di Indonesia yang petatang >> petiting pamer hasil jarahan mereka... >> >> Dan di Indonesia mobil mahal itu adalah sinonim dengan mobil mewah... >> >> >> --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Gawat, si belegug ini kagak bisa menyimak. >> > Lu jelas-jelas terobsesi dengan mobil-mobil mewah di mana lu punya >> > definisi sendiri untuk yang namanya mobil-mobil mewah. Buat lu asal >> > harganya relatif mahal, maka itu pastilah mobil mewah. Padahal mobil-mobil >> > pejabat yang lu recokin itu tidak termasuk kategori mobil-mobil mewah >> > dalam definisi standar seperti yang disebutkan dalam WIKIPEDIA. >> > >> > Gua dalam hal ini tidak terlibat. Hak sang pejabat untuk punya mobil >> > apapun juga. Gua sih sama sekali tidak peduli karena bukan urusan gua. >> > >> > >> > >> > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> > > >> > > Hehehe.. si keparat Teddy ini muter2 lidah dan nambah dosanya dgn bikin >> > > fitnah baru. >> > > >> > > >> > > Gua cuma minta si Teddy ngebuktikan ocehannya sendiri, lalu si Teddy >> > > ngoceh seolah2 gua pernah ngelarang dia make duitnya sendiri. Kapan tuh >> > > gua pernah ngelarang si Teddy make duitnya sendiri sesuka hatinya? Yg >> > > gua bilang adalah si Teddy adalah bajingan rakus dan serakah, bajingan >> > > yg ga peduli dgn orang lain, bukan ngelarang si Teddy make duit sesuka >> > > hatinya. >> > > >> > > Udah jelas si Teddy ini ga bisa ngebuktikan ocehannya, tp dasar bajingan >> > > ga tau malu, dia msh ga mau ngaku bhw mulutnya adalah lobang taik, >> > > padahal dia sendiri yg bilang kalo orang ga bisa ngebuktikan omongannya, >> > > maka ybs itu bermulut lobang taik. >> > > >> > > Emang tuh, dr mulut anjing ga akan tumbuh gading. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >________________________________ >> > > > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> >> > > >To: [email protected] >> > > >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:03 AM >> > > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >Gua kagak pernah secara explisit menyebut mobil-mobil mewah seperti >> > > >yang lu lakukan. Peduli amat dengan orang-orang yang memilikinya, >> > > >karena itu urusan pribadi orang. Hak orang untuk punya dan yang pasti >> > > >duitnya bukan dari lu. >> > > > >> > > >--- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> Dan lu kaing2 gua terobsesi oleh mobil mewah. Dasar mulut lobang taik >> > > >> lu ini. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >________________________________ >> > > >> > From: Teddy S. <teddyr@> >> > > >> >To: [email protected] >> > > >> >Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:45 AM >> > > >> >Subject: [proletar] Re: Definisi untuk mobil mewah >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >Terjemahan dari google karena takutnya kesulitan menterjemahkan: >> > > >> > >> > > >> >>> Ada mobil ultra-tinggi kinerja dari "merek eksotis" yang juga >> > > >> >>> melebihi US $ 100.000, tetapi belum tentu dikategorikan sebagai >> > > >> >>> mobil mewah, seperti sebagai mobil sport dari Ferrari, >> > > >> >>> Lamborghini dan Porsche, meskipun Porsche Panamera bersaing dalam >> > > >> >>> kemewahan high-end / ukuran penuh kategori mewah. >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > >> > > >> >--- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> Sudah terbukti anda yang dungu tapi tidak mau langsung mengaku dan >> > > >> >> orang yang berotak busuk, nista lagi menjijikan adalah orang yang >> > > >> >> fikiran-fikirannya saling bertentangan dan hanya mementingkan >> > > >> >> glorifikasi pribadi sendiri. >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> Baca dengan cermat DEFINISI mobil mewah di mana unsur HARGA >> > > >> >> bukanlah satu-satunya kriteria. Semua orang normal akan tahu bahwa >> > > >> >> Ferrari itu merk sebuah mobil sport. >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> Kalau memang anda cermerlang tentunya anda akan mampu merubah >> > > >> >> definisi yang diberikan WIKIPEDIA hingga WIKIPEDIA mau meralat dan >> > > >> >> memasukan Ferrari sebagai salah satu mobil yang termasuk dalam >> > > >> >> klasifikasi mobil mewah. Saya tantang anda untuk melakukan hal itu >> > > >> >> terhadap WIKIPEDIA. >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> Sekali lagi untuk yang diragukan apakah mereka punya mata atau >> > > >> >> cuma baso doang. >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from "exotic brands" >> > > >> >> > > that also exceed US$100,000, but would not necessarily be >> > > >> >> > > categorized as luxury automobiles, such as the sports cars >> > > >> >> > > from Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche, although the Porsche >> > > >> >> > > Panamera does compete in the high-end luxury/full-size luxury >> > > >> >> > > category. >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> --- In [email protected], "Bukan Pedanda" <bukan.pedanda@> >> > > >> >> wrote: >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > Saya kutip, tanpa komentar karena begitu jelas dungunya, >> > > >> >> > referensi Teddy yang >> > > >> >> > adalah manusia oportunis berotak busuk, nista lagi menjijikkan >> > > >> >> > ini tentang mobil mewah: >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > "Dengan demikian bisa dikatakan Ferrari TIDAK termasuk kedalam >> > > >> >> > kelas mobil >> > > >> >> > mewah, walau harganya sendiri relatif mahal. " >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Aneh bin ajaib kalau ada orang yang merasa dirinya demikian >> > > >> >> > > pintar dan rajin menggugel dalam hal-hal lain, tapi masih >> > > >> >> > > ngotot dengan definisinya sendiri atas "mobil-mobil mewah". >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Mumpung masih pagi dan ada sedikit waktu, jadi bolehlah >> > > >> >> > > sedikit berbelas kasihan meluangkan waktu untuk membantu >> > > >> >> > > membuka mata. >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > --- >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Luxury vehicle is a marketing term for a vehicle that provides >> > > >> >> > > luxury â€" pleasant or desirable features beyond strict >> > > >> >> > > necessityâ€"at increased expense (see: definition of >> > > >> >> > > luxury). The term suggests a vehicle with greater equipment, >> > > >> >> > > performance, construction precision, comfort, design >> > > >> >> > > ingenuity, technological innovation, or features that convey >> > > >> >> > > brand image, cachet, status, or prestigeâ€"or any other >> > > >> >> > > discretionary feature or combination of features. >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Luxury market segments >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Premium compact segment >> > > >> >> > > The premium compact segment[clarification needed] or >> > > >> >> > > small-luxury class is relatively new, having been initiated by >> > > >> >> > > several European brands in the mid-2000s, and constitute the >> > > >> >> > > least expensive offerings in their lineups. These cars are >> > > >> >> > > targeted at a niche market of young customers who have a more >> > > >> >> > > refined taste in their automobiles and the means to pay for >> > > >> >> > > them.[citation needed] By offering a smaller, lighter, more >> > > >> >> > > fuel-efficient, and less expensive vehicle, this serves to >> > > >> >> > > introduce a younger customer to the luxury marque, in hopes of >> > > >> >> > > retaining the coveted customer loyalty.[citation needed] This >> > > >> >> > > includes the Audi A3, BMW 1 Series, Lexus CT, and >> > > >> >> > > Mercedes-Benz B-Class. >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Premium compacts may share components with mass market cars >> > > >> >> > > from the marque's parent company (the A3), and/or have less >> > > >> >> > > sophisticated platforms compared to upmarket vehicles in the >> > > >> >> > > lineup (such as the B-Class). The body style tends to be a >> > > >> >> > > hatchback or compact wagon, previously associated with economy >> > > >> >> > > cars but regaining popularity in the United States for its >> > > >> >> > > afforded utility. The luxury branding and style, high-quality >> > > >> >> > > interior materials, wide range of convenience features, and >> > > >> >> > > performance powertrains are key to distinguishing them from >> > > >> >> > > mass market equivalents (one mistake made by the Cadillac >> > > >> >> > > Cimarron) and making these appeal to consumers. >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > The classification varies, for instance Consumer Guide >> > > >> >> > > Automotive in the US considers the Audi A3 and A4 as part of >> > > >> >> > > the premium compact segment due to similar size and MSRP, >> > > >> >> > > though these are known in Europe as a small family car and a >> > > >> >> > > compact executive car, respectively. >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Entry-level luxury/compact executive cars >> > > >> >> > > The entry-level luxury category is also known as the compact >> > > >> >> > > executive car in Britain and (Mittelklasse in German). In the >> > > >> >> > > US, this segment mostly includes the bottom vehicles in the >> > > >> >> > > line-up of luxury brands as well as the top-of-the-line models >> > > >> >> > > of some non-luxury brands. >> > > >> >> > > Dimensionally, compact executive cars are smaller than >> > > >> >> > > mid-size/large family cars, and sometimes even smaller than >> > > >> >> > > compact cars. Mass market compact cars typically use the >> > > >> >> > > economical front wheel drive transverse engine layout, well >> > > >> >> > > suited to the inline-4 engine, which also maximizes interior >> > > >> >> > > room. Several compact executive cars are rear-wheel drive with >> > > >> >> > > longitudinal engines, for improved stability and handling, and >> > > >> >> > > in order to accommodate the larger size of higher-performance >> > > >> >> > > engines (straight-6, V6, rarely V8), with four-wheel drive >> > > >> >> > > often being available. Compact executive cars also tend have >> > > >> >> > > more complicated independent suspensions, sportier >> > > >> >> > > transmissions, and high revolution engines that may require >> > > >> >> > > premium gasoline. The more complex powertrain and mechanical >> > > >> >> > > layouts of compact executive cars comes at increased cost and >> > > >> >> > > reduced interior passenger and trunk space. >> > > >> >> > > Compact executive cars include the Volvo S60, Acura TSX, Lexus >> > > >> >> > > IS, BMW 3 Series, Audi A4, and Mercedes-Benz C-Class which >> > > >> >> > > particularly emphasize sporty handling. >> > > >> >> > > Other vehicles such as the Lexus ES, Acura TL, Chrysler 300, >> > > >> >> > > and Buick LaCrosse are also considered entry-level luxury in >> > > >> >> > > the United States and Canada, being similar in price to the >> > > >> >> > > BMW 3 Series and Mercedes-Benz C-Class. However, the ES, TL, >> > > >> >> > > and LaCrosse are not sold in Europe and do not fall under >> > > >> >> > > European luxury classifications. The ES and TL actually began >> > > >> >> > > as badge engineered versions of the midsize Toyota Camry and >> > > >> >> > > Honda Accord, respectively, retaining the front wheel drive >> > > >> >> > > transverse engine layout, whereas Toyota's current Lexus IS >> > > >> >> > > does not share a platform with mass market Toyota cars. The ES >> > > >> >> > > and TL are not considered executive cars either, despite >> > > >> >> > > similar dimensions, since executive cars usually emphasize >> > > >> >> > > higher performance, often being rear-wheel drive with >> > > >> >> > > longitudinal engines. The present iterations of the ES and >> > > >> >> > > LaCrosse emphasize "comfortable, reasonably priced luxury", >> > > >> >> > > while the TL has recently been targeted at the entry-level >> > > luxury >> > > >> sport market. >> > > >> >> > > Recently, the entry-level luxury has been very competitive, >> > > >> >> > > and there has been price-overlapping with well-equipped >> > > >> >> > > non-luxury cars. The bestselling vehicles of the marque are >> > > >> >> > > frequently compact executive cars, such as the BMW 3 Series >> > > >> >> > > that makes up 40% of the vehicles that BMW sells worldwide. >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Mid-luxury/executive cars >> > > >> >> > > The mid-luxury segment are commonly referred to as executive >> > > >> >> > > cars in Britain, Obere Mittelklasse in German, and Grandes >> > > >> >> > > Routières in French. Examples include the Volvo S80, BMW 5 >> > > >> >> > > Series, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, and Jaguar XF >> > > >> >> > > Although having similar dimensions to mid-size cars and large >> > > >> >> > > family cars, executive cars are engineered and positioned as >> > > >> >> > > premium vehicles with better performance and technology >> > > >> >> > > amenities. There are also higher development and production >> > > >> >> > > costs, as many well-known mid-luxury cars use the longitudinal >> > > >> >> > > (usually front engine rear wheel drive layout) engine mounting >> > > >> >> > > which affords space for powerful engines such as a V8, instead >> > > >> >> > > of the more economical transverse engine layout of mass market >> > > >> >> > > cars which are restricted to inline-4 or V6. Executive cars >> > > >> >> > > usually have lower sales and production volumes compared to >> > > >> >> > > mid-size cars and large family cars, as base trims with less >> > > >> >> > > equipment and smaller engines are not sold in U.S. and >> > > >> >> > > Canadian markets. Also due to the problem of steep >> > > >> >> > > depreciation, especially concerning cars from less prestigious >> > > >> >> > > brands, most executive cars are produced by marques that >> > > >> >> > > specialize in larger/more expensive vehicles. Particularly in >> > > >> the United States, the mid-luxury segment is dominated by >> > > >> Mercedes-Benz and BMW, as executive cars from lesser-known >> > > >> manufacturers such as Citroën and Infiniti have not had much >> > > >> success. >> > > >> >> > > Vehicles in this segment include the mid-range models of >> > > >> >> > > several luxury car manufacturers. There are also some flagship >> > > >> >> > > sedans in this segment, such as the Acura RL and Infiniti M. >> > > >> >> > > Executive cars such as the BMW 5 Series are crucial to a >> > > >> >> > > luxury automaker's bottom line, and although not the >> > > >> >> > > highest-selling model, they generate a significant amount of >> > > >> >> > > profits due to the lucrative technology options. >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > High-end luxury/full-size luxury cars >> > > >> >> > > Also known as full-size luxury cars, grand saloons, or premium >> > > >> >> > > large cars, while "Oberklasse" is used in Germany. Many of >> > > >> >> > > these are the marque's showcases for the newest automotive >> > > >> >> > > technology. Several nameplates also offer long-wheelbase >> > > >> >> > > versions that offer additional rear legroom and amenities. >> > > >> >> > > Full-size luxury cars sold in Canada and the U.S. typically >> > > >> >> > > have mid-displacement V8 engines, though recently some marques >> > > >> >> > > have offered six cylinder powerplants but without much success. >> > > >> >> > > Vehicles in this category include some of the models from the >> > > >> >> > > flagship lines of luxury car brands. Examples include the Audi >> > > >> >> > > A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ, Lexus LS, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, >> > > >> >> > > Volkswagen Phaeton, and in the US, the Lincoln Town Car and >> > > >> >> > > Cadillac DTS. >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Ultra-luxury cars >> > > >> >> > > R.L. Polk and Company, a global automotive information and >> > > >> >> > > marketing firm that provides solutions to automotive and >> > > >> >> > > related industries, has defined the term "super luxury" >> > > >> >> > > segment for luxury cars costing more than US$100,000. >> > > >> >> > > This bracket includes the entire lineup of Rolls Royce, >> > > >> >> > > Bentley, Aston Martin, Maybach, and Maserati, as these marques >> > > >> >> > > do not offer lower-priced offerings in the entry-level luxury >> > > >> >> > > or mid-luxury segments like more mainstream luxury brands like >> > > >> >> > > BMW and Mercedes-Benz. >> > > >> >> > > Rolls Royce and Bentley have attempted to move downmarket >> > > >> >> > > somewhat with offerings priced considerably lower than their >> > > >> >> > > traditional offerings (Rolls Royce Phantom and Bentley >> > > >> >> > > Mulsanne) such as the Rolls Royce Ghost and the Bentley >> > > >> >> > > Continental GT, creating what Car and Driver describes as the >> > > >> >> > > "entry-opulent segment". Bentley, Maybach, and Rolls-Royce >> > > >> >> > > vehicles share platforms and engines with other luxury brands >> > > >> >> > > from their parent auto company, however Rolls-Royce and >> > > >> >> > > Bentley are assembled in England (separate from the rest of >> > > >> >> > > BMW and Volkswagen Group's production plants) and this >> > > >> >> > > "exclusivity" has made these British marques a sales success. >> > > >> >> > > By comparison, Maybachs are built alongside the Mercedes-Benz >> > > >> >> > > S-Class flagship sedan which has explained why it has not >> > > >> >> > > fared well in the market, furthermore the Maybach's pedigree >> > > >> >> > > was virtually unknown outside of Germany unlike its British >> > > >> >> > > rivals which have long enjoyed renown worldwide. A Bentley executive was >> > > >> quoted as saying "that the brand's exclusivity, history and >> > > >> obsessive luxury help to convince customers that a Bentley is worth >> > > >> the price" which is at least twice that of a flagship luxury car from >> > > >> BMW or Mercedes-Benz. >> > > >> >> > > The top-performing variants of flagship cars from Audi, BMW, >> > > >> >> > > and Mercedes-Benz are often included here as well. They often >> > > >> >> > > have 12-cylinder (usually V12) engines for great refinement >> > > >> >> > > and smoothness, even though contemporary V8 engines can make >> > > >> >> > > similar output while being less expensive. While BMW sells far >> > > >> >> > > fewer V12-engined 7-Series vehicles than V8 versions, the V12 >> > > >> >> > > retains popularity in the US, China, and Russia, as well as >> > > >> >> > > maintaining the marque's prestige in the luxury vehicle market >> > > >> >> > > segment. These ultra-luxury trims also feature standard luxury >> > > >> >> > > and technology features that would be considered optional on >> > > >> >> > > their V8 siblings. >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from "exotic brands" >> > > >> >> > > that also exceed US$100,000, but would not necessarily be >> > > >> >> > > categorized as luxury automobiles, such as the sports cars >> > > >> >> > > from Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche, although the Porsche >> > > >> >> > > Panamera does compete in the high-end luxury/full-size luxury >> > > >> >> > > category. >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > --- >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Jadi berdasarkan informasi yang diberikan oleh WIKIPEDIA, >> > > >> >> > > Toyota bukanlah merk mobil mewah (baca lagi definisinya di >> > > >> >> > > atas) untuk kelas mobil mewah Toyota punya merk sendiri, yaitu >> > > >> >> > > L.... (cari sendiri jawabnya, jangan mau disuapin aja). >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Berdasarkan pernyataan WIKIPEDIA pada >> > > >> >> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_vehicle: >> > > >> >> > > There are ultra-high performance cars from "exotic brands" >> > > >> >> > > that also exceed US$100,000, but would not necessarily be >> > > >> >> > > categorized as luxury automobiles, such as the sports cars >> > > >> >> > > from Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche, although the Porsche >> > > >> >> > > Panamera does compete in the high-end luxury/full-size luxury >> > > >> >> > > category. >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Dengan demikian bisa dikatakan Ferrari TIDAK termasuk kedalam >> > > >> >> > > kelas mobil mewah, walau harganya sendiri relatif mahal. Saat >> > > >> >> > > dulu berdiskusi dengan johny, kami sedang memperbincangkan >> > > >> >> > > kenikmatan berkendaraan dengan akselerasi tinggi, bukannya >> > > >> >> > > memperbincangkan mobil mewah. Baca lagi itu tulisan. Mengutip >> > > >> >> > > kata-kata guru wanita SMA kami di Bandung dulu (kebetulan >> > > >> >> > > beliau berdarah Ambon) yang mengajar pelajaran bahasa Jerman: >> > > >> >> > > "Meneer, itu mata apa baso, Meneer?" >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > Gaploki kepala sendiri 10 kali karena sudah membuang waku >> > > >> >> > > orang untuk menerangkan sesuatu yang bisa dicari sendiri. >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > >> > >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! 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