It's not just Protel, it's also the way it sifts data through the ODBC...

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Brian Guralnick



----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Price" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Windows 2000 Professional fatal exception errors


> Gents,
>
> Happiness is finding a solution to a REAL problem, even if it does
> not make sense or satisfy our inner curiosities for what really happened.
My
> problem was solved by the good advice to go in and tune the amount of hard
> disk space allowed by Windows 2000 professional to use as what I call
"swap
> space" in UNIX terms. My system was configured by our IT department in
> Durango CO., (say no more) and only had 128megs of ram for a single user,
> mainly because even gross IT people can't conceive of needing more on a
non
> shared server. The machine was configured to use 192 megs of virtual
memory
> on hard disk, and that was the problem. I increased it to 1024 megs and my
> errors went bye-bye.
> Everybody here is shaking their heads saying "How can Protel need so
> much memory?". I guess if it needs it, the only lesson learned is give it
> what it wants. Too bad the error message is not trapped and decoded so the
> newbie user can figure out what it wants and what is really wrong here.
> I would like to thank whoever it was who suggested tuning the
> virtual ram disk space because my life was made happy again, and we
shipped
> our board to proto fab this morning because of the good advice.
> In between all the cute digs at who is stupid and who is not, this
> net has real value in that solutions do bubble up as to how to work around
> problems. That is what engineering is all about.
>
> THANKS AGAIN FOLKS!!
> R. Gordon Price
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 7:26 PM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Windows 2000 Professional fatal exception errors
>
>
> On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:37:31 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >On 11:44 AM 3/16/2001 +0000, Terry Harris wrote:
> >>On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:05:52 -0600, Jon wrote:
> >>
> >> >Yes, it DOES sound like you are running with too little memory for
that
> sort
> >> >of project.  I'm running on 128 MB too, and know it is on the edge,
but
> my
> >> >projects are generally not quite so complicated.
> >>
> >>People do talk rubbish about memory (aj included).
> >
> >I don't want to argue, but you haven't produced much of a validation of
> that statement.
> >(Of course, that's not to say that I'm immune to producing rubbish. <g>)
>
> <huge snip about memory usage>
>
> I remind you what you said
>
> "The problem is clearly insufficient RAM. Using P99SE, a design such as
the
> one you're describing probably needs a bare minimum of twice what you're
> running, in order to ensure that you don't kill your system periodically.
"
>
> The problem is not clearly insufficent RAM. The problem is very unlikely
to
> be insufficient RAM. Long before memory allocations actually failed the
> system would be sluggish and even if Protel fails ungracefully on failing
> memory allocation other applications (including win2k) would surely be
> failing and complaining.
>
>
> Cheers, Terry.
>
>

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