it was all the latest 2141, controlled Z, 6011 generic standards, 6012 and
several other design standards.   Maybe I got snuckered, Like I mentioned
they honored it last year but not this year.  I will bring it up at the next
IPC meeting and see if anyone else had the same problem

Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Tontis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Protel EDA Forum' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Layer Stackup Info.


> Mike,
> What standards did you purchase? I believe that if you are a IPC
> designer council member you can only purchase standards, visit seminars,
and
> use your coupon on subjects related to design. So assembly stuff is out.
>
> Abd ul-Rahman,
> I just attended a IPC cert. course. There where a few people from
> Motorola, Northrop, and other companies that have defense contracts with
the
> government. They told me that all of there designers have to be IPC cert.
> and that the MIL. standards are slowly being replaced by IPC standards,
per
> some of there contracts. Most had been in the business for more than 15
> years with feeling the need to be cert. Deter was our instructor and he
had
> stated that in the future all designers will have to be cert. before they
> can get a job. Honestly I cant put much faith in information from some one
> who works for IPC regarding this information. By the way the advanced IPC
> cert. is going to be bataed this year.
>
> Ted
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 6:23 AM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Layer Stackup Info.
>
>
>
>
> I know what the website says,   I also know what my hard earned money
> says... I just purchased manuals about 2 months ago and had to pay full
> price.    Read my last post again , The IPC will not accept your coupon
> unless you are full member of the IPC,  however they did honor the coupon
> from the designer's council  in previous years.
>
> Mike Reagan
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Protel EDA Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Layer Stackup Info.
>
>
> > At 08:55 PM 7/9/01 -0400, Mike Reagan wrote:
> >
> > >I would like to correct you about the discount IPC offers. The coupon
> they
> > >issue to the designers council members is not redeemable, you must be
an
> IPC
> > >member not a member of the designers  council.   They must have started
> this
> > >policy this year because I redeemed my coupons in the past, but his
year
> > >they did  not honor it when I purchased additional manuals.  Have they
> > >honored yours?  I had to pay full price.
> >
> >  From the Designer's Council web site:
> >
> > "Free Designers Council Membership!
> >
> > Did you know that when you join or renew your IPC Designers Council
> > membership we give you a $50.00 coupon to be used towards attending a
> > workshop or seminar or the purchase of IPC documents? This is like
getting
> > your IPC Designers Council membership for free! Also, up to three
coupons
> > can be saved up to use towards seminars or workshops. That's $150.00 off
> > the price of a class! These are just some of the value added benefits
that
> > Designers Council members receive."
> >
> > The DC site implies that one may "Save money on design by using IPC
design
> > standards," listing this as a benefit of membership, but it is not
> explicit
> > that one receives the same discount as IPC members on publications.
> >
> > However, on the page about the certification packages, there is a list
of
> > IPC publications for use in study for the exam, with "member" and
> > "nonmember" prices. The non-member prices are the same as are advertised
> to
> > the public. The member prices are half the nonmember prices. When I
> joined,
> > I got the $50 coupon plus I paid the member prices. I was told that this
> > was a benefit of membership.
> >
> > Perhaps only those specific publications are offered to DC members,
which
> > would be a tad misleading....
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Abdulrahman Lomax
> > P.O. Box 690
> > El Verano, CA 95433
> >
>

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