I mean, Is it just me, or if you buy a PC and install nothing but Protel, you get a 
whole lot of sticky manual routing/panning
problems,

but,

if your PC has ICQ installed, a stock ticker, MP3 player, Email client running & other 
things that have windows refreshing windows
on your desktop, Protel will run better, the mouse will not lock up when scrolling?

Honestly, I think it should be written on Protel's box :

     "To get the best system performance with Protel, run as many cheesy apps as you 
can when working in Protel."

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Guralnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Auto-Pan patch <was> Speaking of Protel Bugs.


>     For those of you who didn't figure it out:
>
>   "My auto-pan patch is a FULLY FUNCTIONAL insult to Protel."
>
>     All I did was place 2 or more "Always On Top" windows over Protel's display 
>screen.
>
>     This is why some people who have ATI & Matrox video cards, or any other 
>problematic brands, do not experience the lockup of
the
> mouse.  IT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE 1 OR MORE TOOL BARS OVER THE PROTEL PCB WINDOW.  This 
>is IDENTICAL as having my 2 dummy windows, in
> my pan patch, over your Protel screen.
>
>     For years now, Protel has had issues with panning-mouse snagging, & if a fully 
>functional fix is to add a few small windows
> always on top of Protel's display refresh area, then something fundamentally weird 
>with how Protel works within the system when
> panning the screen.
>
>     Perhaps at Protel, the panning issue never comes up, because, they always test 
>their software with the default tool applets
> floating over the PCB work area.  I like to place my tool applets snapped along a 
>vertical, or horizontal border.  This does not
> count since Protel doesn't have to draw beneath these tool windows.
>
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> Brian Guralnick
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terry Creer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 2:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Auto-Pan patch <was> Speaking of Protel Bugs.
>
>
> > I've got a funny feeling he's talking about yours, Brian
> >
> > TC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2002 3:27 PM
> > To: Protel EDA Forum
> > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Auto-Pan patch <was> Speaking of Protel Bugs.
> >
> >
> > > 2. ) I am also betting that the anti-intuitave panning is still there (yes
> > > Ian, I know that you like it, and I know that you wrote a routine to fx
> > it,
> > > but it still is backwards and unlike no other system in the world).
> > >
> > > JaMi Smith
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Ian has an auto-pan patch?  What does it do?  Where can I get it?
> >
> > ____________
> > Brian Guralnick
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> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:22 PM
> > Subject: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.
> >
> >
> > > Speaking of Protel Bugs . . .
> > >
> > > What are the odds on whether your favorite Bug has been fixed in DXP?
> > >
> > > 1. ) I am betting that the Keyboard / Mouse problem that has been there
> > > since Protel 98 has not been fixed.
> > >
> > > 2. ) I am also betting that the anti-intuitave panning is still there (yes
> > > Ian, I know that you like it, and I know that you wrote a routine to fx
> > it,
> > > but it still is backwards and unlike no other system in the world).
> > >
> > > 3. ) I am also betting that Protel's "Print Dialogue" box is also still
> > > backwards as compared to the rest of the world (For those that don't
> > > consider the way that Protel handles printing a bug, go play with Adobe
> > > Acrobat (or any other Windows Application) for a while then come back to
> > > Protel to see how it it is not done right). Also, show me one other major
> > > application in the Windows world that has a Print Icon on a toolbar that
> > > invokes a Printer Dialog Box that will not print anything at all, as the
> > one
> > > in the PCB 3-D View (It only does printer setup).
> > >
> > > 4. ) I guess my one real question will be what have the done with
> > Schematic.
> > > Will it still act like a bastard sibling that has been hastily patched
> > into
> > > a system where it is totally foreign "function" wise, or have they
> > actually
> > > taken the time to properly integrate it into the environment so that
> > things
> > > like panning, zooming, and function keys, will work the same as within the
> > > other applications.
> > >
> > > Who's giving what odds?
> > >
> > > What else do you have for the list?
> > >
> > > No fair on you guys who have been beta testing letting the cat out of the
> > > bag.
> > >
> > > JaMi Smith
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
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