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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:51 AM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Auto-Pan patch <was> Speaking of Protel Bugs.
>
>
> > Well I certainly am not familar with that problem and I don't have any
> > toolbars floating over my workspace.
> > My card is Nvidia based GF2MX.
> >
>     I know.  The GF* video card rarely ever lock up the mouse
> when panning in Protel.  This is why I am spending so much time
> researching my "Fastes Protel" system.  I want to pick out a
> system which will run Protel 99SE with as few snags & annoyances as
> possible.
>
>
> ____________
> Brian Guralnick
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 3:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Auto-Pan patch <was> Speaking of Protel Bugs.
>
>
> > Well I certainly am not familar with that problem and I don't have any
> > toolbars floating over my workspace.
> > My card is Nvidia based GF2MX.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 11:55 PM
> > > To: Protel EDA Forum
> > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Auto-Pan patch <was> Speaking of Protel Bugs.
> > >
> > >
> > >     For those of you who didn't figure it out:
> > >
> > >   "My auto-pan patch is a FULLY FUNCTIONAL insult to Protel."
> > >
> > >     All I did was place 2 or more "Always On Top" windows over
> > > Protel's display screen.
> > >
> > >     This is why some people who have ATI & Matrox video cards, or
> > > any other problematic brands, do not experience the lockup of the
> > > mouse.  IT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE 1 OR MORE TOOL BARS OVER THE
> > > PROTEL PCB WINDOW.  This is IDENTICAL as having my 2 dummy windows, in
> > > my pan patch, over your Protel screen.
> > >
> > >     For years now, Protel has had issues with panning-mouse
> > > snagging, & if a fully functional fix is to add a few small windows
> > > always on top of Protel's display refresh area, then something
> > > fundamentally weird with how Protel works within the system when
> > > panning the screen.
> > >
> > >     Perhaps at Protel, the panning issue never comes up, because,
> > > they always test their software with the default tool applets
> > > floating over the PCB work area.  I like to place my tool applets
> > > snapped along a vertical, or horizontal border.  This does not
> > > count since Protel doesn't have to draw beneath these tool windows.
> > >
> > > ____________
> > > Brian Guralnick
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> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Terry Creer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 2:07 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Auto-Pan patch <was> Speaking of Protel Bugs.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've got a funny feeling he's talking about yours, Brian
> > > >
> > > > TC
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2002 3:27 PM
> > > > To: Protel EDA Forum
> > > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Auto-Pan patch <was> Speaking of Protel Bugs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > 2. ) I am also betting that the anti-intuitave panning is
> > > still there (yes
> > > > > Ian, I know that you like it, and I know that you wrote a
> > > routine to fx
> > > > it,
> > > > > but it still is backwards and unlike no other system in
> the world).
> > > > >
> > > > > JaMi Smith
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > Ian has an auto-pan patch?  What does it do?  Where can I get it?
> > > >
> > > > ____________
> > > > Brian Guralnick
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Voice (514) 624-4003
> > > > Fax (514) 624-3631
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Cc: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:22 PM
> > > > Subject: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Speaking of Protel Bugs . . .
> > > > >
> > > > > What are the odds on whether your favorite Bug has been
> fixed in DXP?
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. ) I am betting that the Keyboard / Mouse problem that has
> > > been there
> > > > > since Protel 98 has not been fixed.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. ) I am also betting that the anti-intuitave panning is
> > > still there (yes
> > > > > Ian, I know that you like it, and I know that you wrote a
> > > routine to fx
> > > > it,
> > > > > but it still is backwards and unlike no other system in
> the world).
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. ) I am also betting that Protel's "Print Dialogue" box is
> > > also still
> > > > > backwards as compared to the rest of the world (For those
> that don't
> > > > > consider the way that Protel handles printing a bug, go play
> > > with Adobe
> > > > > Acrobat (or any other Windows Application) for a while then
> > > come back to
> > > > > Protel to see how it it is not done right). Also, show me one
> > > other major
> > > > > application in the Windows world that has a Print Icon on a
> > > toolbar that
> > > > > invokes a Printer Dialog Box that will not print anything at
> > > all, as the
> > > > one
> > > > > in the PCB 3-D View (It only does printer setup).
> > > > >
> > > > > 4. ) I guess my one real question will be what have the done with
> > > > Schematic.
> > > > > Will it still act like a bastard sibling that has been
> hastily patched
> > > > into
> > > > > a system where it is totally foreign "function" wise, or have they
> > > > actually
> > > > > taken the time to properly integrate it into the
> environment so that
> > > > things
> > > > > like panning, zooming, and function keys, will work the same
> > > as within the
> > > > > other applications.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who's giving what odds?
> > > > >
> > > > > What else do you have for the list?
> > > > >
> > > > > No fair on you guys who have been beta testing letting the
> > > cat out of the
> > > > > bag.
> > > > >
> > > > > JaMi Smith
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
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