Please See my comments below: > As to this comment... I haven't a problem with listing the software that I > originally installed on my PC. However to question the trustworthiness of my > statement, this I find a bit insulting. To say the very least! > Prog's as follows: (in order of installation) > ~Win 98SE > ~Office 2000
Joel, my comments were meant to be 'anti-inflamatory'. I apologize to any offence taken. No one who has ever reported problems to this group has reported a complete system set-up to my knowledge. Personally, I think that it is 'none of my business that' I know your s/w configuration. Since you have freely disclosed this information, it might trigger an insightful thought from some one within this group. For instance, I was happily running Office 97 under NT when the computer guys decided to give me an upgrade to Office 2000. Whether this event was related or not with other upgrades, shortly thereafter I got a failure to launch a processes at every boot. A friend who had a similar problem commented that it was a license server being launched on his machine. However, the applications s/w was no longer in existence. With another NT problem, using service pack 6 crippled my machine on a large job due to a extraordinary number of page faults being generated. A slow machine, a lousey video card did not help. I retreated to SP5 and I managed to finish that job after getting a G550 that worked 'ok'. > I maintain my system myself. I know that anytime I allow a s'ware package to > configure my system it will configure with complete bias to the package that > was allow to do so. Thank you for the input nonetheless. As to keeping > windows open and the ability to make a machine hang-up... I have yet to have > to open 99SE on this PC (aside from confirming the install) and it was only > after I had installed 99SE that I got a blue screen. Argue this all you > choose. The fact remains. I could run my DJ s'ware while doing animation in > Maya without any problems. That is no longer the case. And the only thing > that changed was the addition of 99SE and SP6. While the IT people govern my machine at work, I am not foreign to building a system from scratch. My general comment is, Protel is a buss hog and this puts both weight on the buss and the CPU. Protel will cry out if that support disappears under intensive work. > And "whining"? Perhaps Sir, if you've elected to view my inputs as whining > instead of the original intent, (being only to share my what I have > encountered while I have been a user of a s'ware package for which we all > use and few of us understand entirely) you should look within your > understanding of the purpose of this group. Not to mention taking a closer > look at the content of my original writings. My term 'whining' was not meant towards your problems. The subject of the mouse scenerio and "it's Protel's/Microsoft's fault" became an exhausting read. Some threads are not solving problems, but otherwise raising the signal to noise ratio of the group. I most think everyone in this group tries to solve problems for others the best way they can. There are alot of helpful posters here. The subject of Dell's and other platforms has come up too. Personally, I like to know what is in the box. While I do run a Dell at work and it seems ok, I have an ASUS board (long in the tooth P5AB) at home, This was purchased in lieu of a researched experience of a friend. The subject of motherboard stabilty and what often works is often trashed out at motherboard websites. I have built computers systems from scratch before. I have seen mother boards which were good and those which are not so stable. I have experienced video card problems and fixed them. In this light, I have accepted the compromise to use compliant hardware to make Protel work better. This is a personal decision some people do not wish to accept. > And had I not already invested several thousand dollars and hours into this > package, then perhaps another CAD package would be the answer... But those > matters, Mr. Hartery, would in fact make such a statement on your part > completely illogical and quite unfounded. Being as you haven't the knowledge > of my system, software, ablities nor my understanding of the 99SE s'ware at > the time in which you made such a ridiculous statement. However, thank you > for your suggestion and your personal opinions as they relate to my inputs. I have seen at least one user (with Protel 98) thrash around like a fish out of water. My system, however, was just humming along. I could not relate to his experience. This seems to be the case here. I am sure you would agree, Altium should be more active in debunking your problems when they have seemed to go to the extreme. There should be a recommended piece of benchmark s/w to insure this is the case. I lament for your investment, but in having knowledge of you set-up is something I never did claim. When some of us on this group run reasonably stable platforms and others are going out of their minds, the issue may not necessarily be 99SE. My work system is a Dell Dimension 8200 2 gig P4, 512 megs of ram. The video card is a NVIDA GeForce 3. If anyone is interested in my s/w set-up, I won't mind posting it either. > As long as we are hoping... I hope DXP (just as I HAD hoped 99SE) is a lot > more like P-CAD at least in the "no major bugs and no needed work arounds" > department. Joel, my P-CAD experience saw me perform alot more work for no good reason. I will admit to being militant to 99SE until SP3. In any case, if you want to contact me off line, my email address is below. Fabe Fabian Hartery Research Engineer, B. Eng (Electrical) Guigne International Limited 63 Thorburn Road St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada A1B3M2 tel: 709-738-4070 fax: 709-738-4093 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.guigne.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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