Mike, Yup it does in fact follow the rules a novel concept eh? I still can't get used to the fact you can actualy put shorts the board with great ease in most systems including Protel. I know guys that are using the Expedition autorouter to REALLY do edge coupled Diff Pairs on some pretty darn heavey boards and the router is doing it. Shame about the netlist. Yeah Mentor bought them just when VeriBest was ready to offer the router as a standalone. Yes that is the way it should be really, more flexability. However I have a bone to pick about the way Cadence did not make the interfaces to both Allegro and Specctra more similar, whichever was better. Well good luck, I really had high hopes when I originally heard about this next gen of Protel, but the more I hear the more that hope is fading. I do need to really look at the demo yet though just need the time, should have some pretty soon though. Bob Wolfe.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Reagan (EDSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Hard Look at other Programms > Bob Wolfe wrote > > I do feel the VeriBest router still beats Specctra though. > > If you really look at this program it runs circles around > > anything else for interactive routing. > > Not just interactive routing , there is more to interactive routing than > placing traces. Mentor understands dedign rules with High speed, delay, > capacitance, parrallel rules, timing etc. It follows all the rules. These > are the tools I need. > > >I find it hard to believe you can't take in a netlist though?? > > Hard to believe its true. I even went to a full day workshop for Mentor, > The reps choked when I asked them if it supported an external netlist. I > would have purchased the product two months ago if it did. > > You are right about pricing ....Purchase Protel for 10K ( or whatever) > then add 45 K for a real router. I wish Protel would just stop what ever > they are trying to do with this router project. Start from scratch.. > First line of code should read.. "Once upon a time". Develop the router > as a separate product Then market it as a separate product. Reason, it > would support new useres, old users, even other programs that still rely on > Spectra, ie Accel. Dont think for a minute that Altium didnt redesign DXP > without hooks into Accel . They have two products, they wouldnt > dream of developing two product lines at this point. So the router has to > be compatible with product B. I have preferences to use a seperate > computer to do routing. It allows me to contunue with other projects while > routing. Integrated routers sound good in theory but for me it doesnt > work well. . I may be part of a small exception. > > Does anyone out there know of a conversion program that can take the 99SE > rules text file and can convert it to a spectra.do file with net classes > included? Right now this may be my best alternative to routing. > > Mike Reagan > EDSI > > > > > ************************************************************************ > * Tracking #: 2BF2659CF555FB40B9CA488995DC136E0BEC3CE4 > * > ************************************************************************ > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
