Well it is either a bug or a feature. And if it's a feature what do you use
it for?
If people are using it or it helps them then I'd like to know :-)

I say it should know what layer you are on, so if you are placing a mech
line protel can say 'Hey, they're on a mech layer, I'll bring up a
non-electrical edit window when they hit tab'. Instead of 'Hey, I'm sure
they intended to place copper even though they haven't started from an
electrical hotpoint. Let me just kindly switch them to a Cu layer'

As to the schematic commands I was indicating that there are place graphical
line and place electrical line ICONs. 
Now the line containing the electrical connectivity is the same ICON used to
place non-electrical lines (mech) in PCB.
I would call this a slight inconsistency within a single program. Sure it's
easy to assign a different bmp to the command but it's the default setup.

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 13 September 2002 4:13 a.m.
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO


no i don't agree that this is a bug
when you say "shouldn't it know when it's placing a mech line?"
 i don't see how

you could wish to place a line on a copper layer (which would of course
be conductive)

for example on top layer if you start from a pad with a net and  P T 
the track will have the associated net

if instead you did P L you would see NO NET as the track attribute and
the width would be independent of the rules set and follow the last line
width used

also even on a copper layer the two commands are useful for keeping the
separate widths per type

as to the schematic commands
in the schematic editor 
a wire is P W
a line is P D L  (not P L as you indicated)

but in the sch lib editor a line is P L since everything is a "D"rawing
primitive and there are no wires

Dennis Saputelli

Shane Edwards wrote:
> 
> Yes PL is the correct comand.
> Ever notice how the place electrical wire in schematic icon is the same as
> the place line icon in PCB!
> This helps with my confusion :-)
> Shouldn't Protel know when it's placing a mechanical line, that to me is a
> bug!
> 
> Ed
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2002 12:59 p.m.
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] - Possible Bug? -NO
> 
> this is not a bug
> you are just using the wrong command
> 
> use P L
> place line for mech layers
> 
> when you hit TAB a different dialog will pop and it won't swap you back
> to a copper layer
> 
> P T is for electrical tracks
> 
> if you think about it, it is not bad
> also the last used width will stick for each type which is nice
> 
> Dennis Saputelli
> 
> Shane Edwards wrote:
> >
> > Hey Rob,
> > I presume it's because there is no non-copper layers in the drop down
box
> in
> > the interactive routing window, so it then automatically changes you to
> the
> > first cu layer... top!
> > Annoys the hell out of me too, and unfortunately is not a new fault so
> don't
> > expect a fix!
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2002 5:02 a.m.
> > To: Protel EDA Forum
> > Subject: [PEDA] Possible Bug?
> >
> > I am wondering if any of you can replicate this:
> >
> > Start placing a series of track segments on Mech 1.
> > While in the process of placing track, hit the "TAB" key to change the
> track
> > width on the fly.
> > Upon changing the width and closing the track dialog box, you are no
> longer
> > placing track on Mech 1 but on the Top signal layer.
> >
> > A little annoying, but something that I have worked around for awhile
now.
> >
> > Can anyone confirm that this is repeatable in DXP as well?
> >
> > Rob
> >
> 
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