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On Tue, 19 Aug 2003 16:25:41 -0400, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
> At 05:53 AM 8/16/2003, Choong Keat Yian wrote:
>> John,it has been my interpersonal "friction" between me and my
>> superior because he is still using Protel 2.7 while i am using
>> OrCAD personally.Now our team is using Protel 2.7(imagine that)
>> because of serious flaws in 99SE.
>>
>
> I would not accept this. 99SE is relatively mature and in a
> properly configured system is stable. Windows 98 has known resource
> problems that make 99SE less than satisfactory with W98 -- though
> usable, if one runs a resource monitor and takes care not to run
> out of resources -- but with W2000 it is fine. I can't remember the
> last crash, though I think I might be able to get it to crash by
> playing around with the spreadsheet editor and update from
> spreadsheet. Maybe.
>
>> drafting in ancient 2.7 is nice and stable althought it is not so
>> powerful with automations so now i do a work-around mode by
>> exporting .pcb files to be routed by OrCAD Layout and finished
>> the job perfectly professional..,
>>
>
> Yes, it is actually possible to do professional work with OrCAD
> Layout. But not in a million years would I choose Layout -- at
> least the version I've used, admittedly not the latest, v. 7, which
> was *quite* buggy -- over P99SE, not to mention DXP.
>
>> and my superior is not aware of what i am doing yet but i will do
>> it to make him aware of what suffering is to come in our future
>> workload if he still stick to Protel.I mean well and would still
>> stick to the forum to see there  is anything good will come out
>> of this to make my working life more harmonious with those die
>> hard dudes that i am working with..,so this is my story.
>>
>
> I really do suggest getting to the root of the problem. Understand
> that many, many of us, who use Protel 99SE constantly, report
> stability. In the past, persons complaining about instability
> eventually found -- if they persisted --
>
> (1) They were using W98 and running out of system resources (2)
> They had a bad memory chip
> (3) They were using certain video cards. ATI is famous for
> problems. Matrox is well-accepted among Protel users. I had tons of
> problems when I was using an ATI card that disappeared when I went
> to Matrox Millenium. I'm now using a Matrox dual-head card. BTW, if
> you aren't running two or more monitors, you are unnecessarily
> cramped, I've got two 20 inch 1600x1200 monitors side-by-side, and
> I'd make sure than any employee doing CAD had at least this good or
> better. (4) They didn't have enough memory.
> (5) There were other hardware or software problems, not Protel per
> se.
>
>
> Entirely as a separate thing from the crash issue -- I'm certain
> that can be solved -- Protel is very different from OrCAD. If you
> are accustomed to OrCAD you are quite likely to be using Protel in
> an inefficient way. Your plan to continue to read this list is a
> good one. Even experienced Protel users sometimes discover, here,
> that they've been doing something the hard way for years, they
> simply had overlooked a much easier and faster technique available
> in the program.
>
> One way to approach this problem, if you want to work on it, is to
> mention ways that OrCAD, to you, is much better. Some of these
> might indeed be OrCAD superiorities, though it is not very likely.
> More likely you've been trying to push Protel through OrCAD hoops.
> By asking, you'll find out, and usually you will learn faster and
> better ways to use Protel.
>
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