Don't forget to "End Process 'Client99.exe'"!!!!!!

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Brian Guralnick
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Saputelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ?


> i believe there is both a in memory cache and an in schematic file cache
>
> closing and reopening the file does not clear the memory cache as i
> recall
>
> you have to close the whole protel session
> i think this was cleaned up somewhere along the way so that i have not
> found it to be much of a problem
>
> please correct me if i am wrong about this behavoir
>
> Dennis Saputelli
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > This probably strays from your query, but from memory, there was a
buglett
> > (I'm not sure if it's been fixed) in that where you define the default
> > primitives in the schematic editor for schematic parts, one of the
> > PartFields was incorrectly mapped to another.  Therefore, there was one
> > part field you could not define, and another that appeared twice.  What
I
> > do now at the end of a design is to do a global change to all schematic
> > parts and replace all part fields matched by: * with attributes: {*=}.
> >
> > "...The weirdest thing however is that when I place the part, delete it
> > and
> > then place it again all behaves as expected: non-hidden, blank fields.
> > Every subsequently placed instance of that part (wether left-click or
with
> >
> > a new place command) is then OK, even when rotated..."
> >
> > .... this mysterious behaviour may have to do with how Protel caches
> > placed library parts.  Once you place a part in the schematic editor, it
> > is cached in memory somewhere (escapes me as to where exactly at the
mo).
> > Even when you place a part supposedly from the library, it adopts the
> > cached part.  This is overridden with the "update cached parts"
function.
> >
> > I've also experienced Michael's situation once where an entire databse
> > file etc vanished.  This occured when Protel crashed and gave the option
> > to "ignore and continue" or "close".  This one time I chose to close and
> > it then kindly offered to save my work that had changed.  The mistake in
> > this case is to select "save" (and destroy).
> >
> > HTH
> > Brendon.
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 09/18/03 02:00 AM
> > Please respond to
> > "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > To
> > "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ?
> >
> > I have noticed (and I have only been using 99 SE for a few months) that
it
> > does indeed have Altzheimer's.  I have had the program completely erase
my
> > entire database (admittedly it wasn't large) including the backups.
> >
> > I recently had a harddrive crash and had to reinstall Windows and
Protel.
> > Since then it has been MUCH better behaved.
> >
> > Michael Badillo
> >
> > From: Leo Potjewijd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2003/09/17 Wed AM 08:08:16 EDT
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ?
> >
> > Hi again.
> >
> > I just noticed sometghing strange with the Sch editor of P99SE(SP6).
> >
> > I set up my schematic libraries (all in one database) with custom part
> > field names: 'tolerance'  for field 1, 'power/voltage' for field 2 and
> > 'class/rating' for field 3.
> > Since these fields can be blank for a lot of parts, I further set those
> > fields to blanks in the default primitives dialog. I also unchecked
their
> > 'hide' checkbox to facilitate later editing.
> >
> > When I place a part, the first time around these fields show up as an
> > asterisk on the same location as the part type; ie I have a value and
> > three
> > asterisks on top of one another.
> > The fields are not hidden (as expected), but the fields contain
asterisks
> > (which is NOT expected).
> >
> > When I rotate the part or left-click again the asterisks that shouldn't
be
> >
> > there in the first place suddenly show up at their normal position
(which
> > is _very_ strange, to say the least).
> >
> > The weirdest thing however is that when I place the part, delete it and
> > then place it again all behaves as expected: non-hidden, blank fields.
> > Every subsequently placed instance of that part (wether left-click or
with
> >
> > a new place command) is then OK, even when rotated...
> >
> > But when I place some other part from any library I'm back at square
one.
> >
> > Closing libraries, databases or restarting Protel doesn't help; neither
> > does 'update parts in cache' or 'update schematics'.
> >
> > Which brings me to these questions:
> > Did I miss a setting somewhere?
> > Did anyone see this before?
> > Is there a solution to this? This is quite annoying.....
> >
> > Leo Potjewijd
> > hardware designer
> > IE Keyprocessor bv.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > +31 20 4620700
>
> -- 
> Dennis Saputelli
>
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