Guys,
I have too had major problems with hang on compress.
I am running Win2Kpro, and I have actually installed
every update provided.
What I have seen though is if I set it to not automatically
compress on design close and close the design then
run it manually it does not seem to hang at all.
If I edited the libraries or more than one design and try
and do more then say 2 compresses it may occasionally hang.
But if I close the design utilities between each compress
it really never hangs.

So basically I got in the habit of doing just that, every now and
then though I will forget and sure enough it will hang.

I did not know it was related to MDAC.

Bob Wolfe


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Saputelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE hangups during compact


> this has tortured us from time to time but not lately
>
> we are also running W2K SP2
> (BTW, you can patch up SP2 to latest security w/o upgrading past SP2)
> * see footnote
>
> i have never seen a clear cause or solution stated here
> i don't think it is something in your file
>
> it has something to do with MDAC stuff and/or some interaction
> w/ memory timing (see next)
>
> have you changed your hardware lately?
> i solved the problem (which was severe) completely
> by 'just' buying a new computer - even though the computer being
> replaced was itself new
>
> you could go down the install reinstall route
> if you do, search these archives for the COMPLETE uninstall procedure
> it got refined and does make a difference
>
> Dennis Saputelli
>
> *
> 2 of the security updates for WIN2K are related to MDAC
> we have had so much trouble in this regard that i was very nervous about
> installing those
> but lately i have installed one of them (sorry can't remember the
> number)
> and so far so good w/ SE
> later i will try the other and report here
>
> Dennis Saputelli
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I have from time to time encountered a database which hangs Protel upon
> > attempting to do a compact. I vaguely recall having fixed at least one
such
> > database by turning off the automatic compact on closing, closing the
database, and
> > then manually compacting that particular database - and then everything
was
> > fine from then on.
> >
> > I now have a small database (only a single schematic sheet entered thus
far)
> > which refuses to compact, whether done automatically at closing, or done
> > manually. There's nothing unusual about the design; it's thus far a
single
> > schematic sheet, B size, and not particularly dense, a few dozen parts
placed and
> > wired thus far. A few of those parts are newly created in my personal
library, but
> > there shouldn't be anything I could do in creating a part that should
hang
> > the program. After I work in the schematic for a while, I start getting
access
> > violations, and eventually have to shut down - but Protel hangs in the
process
> > of shutting down (because automatic compact is turned on).
> >
> > I'll probably have to jump thru some hoops with moving the schematic to
a
> > clean, new database via the clipboard, but I'd sure like to know what is
the
> > trigger that brings this problem to the surface. Running 99SE SP6 (wish
it was
> > SP7) under W2K SP2. I refuse to load the later "service packs" because
they bring
> > nothing new to the party except Sweet Old Bill's spyware. Any thoughts?
> >
> > Steve Hendrix
>
> -- 
> Dennis Saputelli
>
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