Yes, it's weak in some areas but in other areas there have been great
improvements. For example the ECO process now allows me to remove an entire
set of commands which was never before possible in 99SE. I will often add
pads to ground, usually mounting tabs for potentiometers, and they aren't
part of the normal schematic or netlist. In 99SE, it naturally wanted to
remove these and I had to click on every one to remove it. (I think they
called them macros in the update design dialog) Now in 2004, I can right
click on one of them and choose "Disable all of same kind" which is
fantastic!!! Also the entire ECO dialog is bigger with more info and more
readable. It's a little thing, but it save ME time.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: edsi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 6:17 PM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] 2004 Global edits
> Tony wrote
> >Maybe Altium could implement a few more global dialog boxes 
> for us to 
> >have high level, quick functionality like the T,I,P box. (Component 
> >Text
> Position
> >is what it's really called)
> Tony
> I agree and more..  the inspector panel is better than the 
> first DXP release but is far from polished  For example if 
> you select a few random components and look at the inspector,
> it shows in blue  NAME and Component Comment.   If you 
> accidently  click on either one of these two it goes wacky 
> and arbitrarily picks one component.  If you  click on 
> somewhere in the panel it  toggles
> between reading  the words NAME and component .   Both  are 
> the same word as REF designator. Which by the way is the 
> correct name and never used.     It's just illogical 
> behavior.   What is the meaning of this? We had a President 
> here in the USA  that tried to parse the word "is"    Is 
> Altium parsing  the word NAME?     It has a wacky, non 
> logical feel to it.
> Off topic
> Can anyone tell me what the other silly   choices  ie  
> Standard, mechanical, graphical, NET TIE have to do with my 
> component?   It looks like another PCAD   migration.  What is 
> it?  These options are in the inspector.
> I am starting another PCB   board thank you, This is the 
> second board that 0603 components will not import without the 
> library being opened.  I experienced this before wanted to 
> confirm the problem was not me.  I am convinced there are now 
> two bugs with  loading netlists.      In case Y'all didn't 
> notice,  in 99SE components which began with zero like 0805 
> and 0603 would sometimes shorten by dropping the leading 
> zero's.   It didn't happen all of the time but I know how to 
> reproduce it.    I think there might be something related to 
> the dropping the leading zero.
> There are a few other problems with netlist loading.  
> Including two things that must be applied.   Dont you hate to 
> install Bill Gate's crap and all the questions are " hit any 
> key to continue" otherwise  it is Good Gye.  Just freaking 
> finish the install, we already established I what I want to 
> do. Loading a netlist requires you to always check this same 
> little box ADVANCED MODE. Then it always asks the same silly 
> question.. do you want match the reference numbers?.  WAIT 
> did I say reference numbers,  this the first place 2004 uses 
> the word REF Number then it never uses it again.  This part 
> was programmed by a subcontractor . I am sure of that.  
> The most annoying part of the netlist load is the poor 
> report.  It fails to give you a comprehensive report of what 
> does not get loaded.   The report only contains ref 
> designators   and the word NO ACTION.  No kidding ,   I know 
> it was no action.  A comprehensive report with part 
> information (starting with footprint) would help me find out 
> exactly what went wrong.  So tonight I have two pages of 
> reference numbers that I am manually writing  next to them, 
> my footprints.   Oh how cool, I am using a Pencil for 
> something that was automatic in every version up to DXP. 
> I hope Altium still feels that PCB is part of their long term 
> plan,  The package has alot to offer,   There are things I am 
> dying to try out but PCB is taking up more time because the 
> ball was dropped on a few things including loading netlist. 
> So I am spending time learning to use my pencil instead of 
> using the advanced features.  
> If you u haven't tried the Autorouter,   Don't .  It still 
> doesn't work. I have baselined a BGA design with 2000 
> components against 2004,  Spectra and ConnectEDA, Electra.  
> 2004 sputtered for 2 hours and on the the third hour crashed. 
>  That is really sad.  They should take the router off this 
> product and not even offer it for sale.   
> Mike Reagan

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