Oh, believe me, Karen, I have toldem, but he just keeps insisting
that he's actually better than anyone's giving him credit. I'm not
the first person to tell him areas to improve.
I think you guys are right. This guy's just probably not worth my
effort any further. I'm sorry to say.
Anyway, I appreciate you all's advice, really, I do!
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
<http://www.gshministry.org>http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>Karen Lewellen
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: How would you all as full fledged professionals handle this?
I see, My hope was to give you an opening like...would you want this
artist to hear what you just recorded?
Clearly he has no grasp of marketing either smiles.
Kevin makes a valid point.
Is there any reason why, if he is not paying you, that you must answer at
all?
Better still, if he is a real friend, why you cannot say,
Look You are my friend and I want to help you as a friend. I like you
personally, but this stuff is not of quality, here is why.
He honestly might not be able to hear what you can, if he has trouble with
pitch.
Still, if he is serious about his craft, then he must be prepared to grow.
Kare
On Mon, 24 Jul 2017, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> I actually asked him that, and he said he doesn't want to be
like anyone. He says there are too many impersonators. He said I
don't want to sound like them, and frankly, anyone trying to do
music like someone else is a cheating ripoff. His words word per
word, not mine.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>
> <http://www.gshministry.org>http://www.gshministry.org
> (980) 500-9575
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Karen Lewellen
> To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: How would you all as full fledged professionals handle this?
>
>
> Hi Chris,
> You are an honorable friend being considerate of his feelings.
> I have a question. who does this person admire professionally? What
> singer does he want to become, who influences his work, if
you understand
> me?
> I ask because you may be able to give direction, or frankness, without
> insulting him as a person. focus on his art, not him, does that make
> sense?
> Will share more after you answer.
> Karen
>
>
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>
> > OK, so I have a friend who sent me a track he had recorded.
Granted, he did it in Reaper not PT, but that's kind of not exactly the point.
> >
> > He wanted my opinion on his mix, etc.
> >
> > First off, the guy is almost 2 whole steps off key. I know,
as I know very well the song that he recorded. This isn't him
using improvization. It's more truely him being off the correct
note or anything there close.
> >
> > Secondly, his vocals clipped horribly. With no processing or
anything, the meters are showing him at positive 9.3DB.
> >
> > On his reverb, he ran both the wet, and the dry mix at 100%,
so he sounds like he's in the grand cannyon. Plus, he's got major
major headphone bleedover, so bad, I almost can make out each note
individually from the karaoke track he used.
> >
> > When he hits the higher notes, he's singing from his throat,
I can tell, as he's straining badly, and literally almost shouting.
> >
> > On the compressor, he used a 8/1 with the attack as fast as
the compressor plug would let him, and the attack as slow as it
would. Then, he set the threshold at negative 14DB, which
obviously means he's squashing the living shit out of things!
Worse is, he not only did this on his vocal, but he then
reduplicated it on the master fader as well. Aaa, my aching! ears!
> >
> > Finally, he turned up all frequencies around 60HZ by about 5 DB.
> >
> > When I told him this needed a lot of work, being he wanted my
honest opinion, he says he cannot hear the things I'm talking
about nor how it negatively effected the mix.
> >
> > This guy's been through a lot of emotional psychological
trauma, which so've I, so I know how it feels. I don't wanna tell
him this sounds like utter F***ing shit, but, that said, this is
about the 5th song he's sent me like this. I just don't think he's
cut out for a vocalist let alone a producer. OK, who 'em I to
judge! I know, I know, I'm not the greatest myself, but at least I
listen and try taking advice when people give it, hince why I've
improved as much over the years as I have. This guy simply won't
take any advice I nor anyone else give him. He didn't pay me to
listen, he just asked me as a friend to tell him. He's not
expecting me to do this as him being a client.
> >
> > So, client or not, what's the best way with love, mind you,
to more politely say, Jane Doe? You absolutely suck!
> >
> > Surely some of you all have had vocalists or musicians who
you listenned to, who you had to turn down the job from as they
just weren't seen as fit for it. They just didn't have what it would take.
> >
> > How do you let those guys off easy, without being a nasty
Simon Cowell the second? My christian morrals won't let me lie,
but if I say what I really think, it's gonna break his heart! I
can't do that to such a dear friend! I just can't! What do I do!
> >
> > Chris.
> >
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