I see, My hope was to give you an opening like...would you want this
artist to hear what you just recorded?
Clearly he has no grasp of marketing either smiles.
Kevin makes a valid point.
Is there any reason why, if he is not paying you, that you must answer at
all?
Better still, if he is a real friend, why you cannot say,
Look You are my friend and I want to help you as a friend. I like you
personally, but this stuff is not of quality, here is why.
He honestly might not be able to hear what you can, if he has trouble with
pitch.
Still, if he is serious about his craft, then he must be prepared to grow.
Kare
On Mon, 24 Jul 2017, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I actually asked him that, and he said he doesn't want to be like anyone. He
says there are too many impersonators. He said I don't want to sound like them,
and frankly, anyone trying to do music like someone else is a cheating ripoff.
His words word per word, not mine.
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Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575
----- Original Message -----
From: Karen Lewellen
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: How would you all as full fledged professionals handle this?
Hi Chris,
You are an honorable friend being considerate of his feelings.
I have a question. who does this person admire professionally? What
singer does he want to become, who influences his work, if you understand
me?
I ask because you may be able to give direction, or frankness, without
insulting him as a person. focus on his art, not him, does that make
sense?
Will share more after you answer.
Karen
On Mon, 24 Jul 2017, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> OK, so I have a friend who sent me a track he had recorded. Granted, he did
it in Reaper not PT, but that's kind of not exactly the point.
>
> He wanted my opinion on his mix, etc.
>
> First off, the guy is almost 2 whole steps off key. I know, as I know very
well the song that he recorded. This isn't him using improvization. It's more
truely him being off the correct note or anything there close.
>
> Secondly, his vocals clipped horribly. With no processing or anything, the
meters are showing him at positive 9.3DB.
>
> On his reverb, he ran both the wet, and the dry mix at 100%, so he sounds
like he's in the grand cannyon. Plus, he's got major major headphone bleedover, so
bad, I almost can make out each note individually from the karaoke track he used.
>
> When he hits the higher notes, he's singing from his throat, I can tell, as
he's straining badly, and literally almost shouting.
>
> On the compressor, he used a 8/1 with the attack as fast as the compressor
plug would let him, and the attack as slow as it would. Then, he set the threshold
at negative 14DB, which obviously means he's squashing the living shit out of
things! Worse is, he not only did this on his vocal, but he then reduplicated it
on the master fader as well. Aaa, my aching! ears!
>
> Finally, he turned up all frequencies around 60HZ by about 5 DB.
>
> When I told him this needed a lot of work, being he wanted my honest
opinion, he says he cannot hear the things I'm talking about nor how it negatively
effected the mix.
>
> This guy's been through a lot of emotional psychological trauma, which so've
I, so I know how it feels. I don't wanna tell him this sounds like utter F***ing
shit, but, that said, this is about the 5th song he's sent me like this. I just
don't think he's cut out for a vocalist let alone a producer. OK, who 'em I to
judge! I know, I know, I'm not the greatest myself, but at least I listen and try
taking advice when people give it, hince why I've improved as much over the years
as I have. This guy simply won't take any advice I nor anyone else give him. He
didn't pay me to listen, he just asked me as a friend to tell him. He's not
expecting me to do this as him being a client.
>
> So, client or not, what's the best way with love, mind you, to more politely
say, Jane Doe? You absolutely suck!
>
> Surely some of you all have had vocalists or musicians who you listenned to,
who you had to turn down the job from as they just weren't seen as fit for it.
They just didn't have what it would take.
>
> How do you let those guys off easy, without being a nasty Simon Cowell the
second? My christian morrals won't let me lie, but if I say what I really think,
it's gonna break his heart! I can't do that to such a dear friend! I just can't!
What do I do!
>
> Chris.
>
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