no, it doesn't run the fuel pump? I am hoping this is not going to end up expensive!! Mark Miles
Manager Bar Square 8 Market Place Wokingham Berkshire RG40 1AL 07522 67 60 57 ________________________________ From: Jim Hearne <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 20 May, 2011 14:53:19 Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion Those voltages mean both coils are being turned on continuously, this is not good. I expect it gets rather warm as well. When you turn the ignition on does the fuel pump run for a few seconds ? Jim From: Mark Miles >Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 2:41 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion > > >I now have the following information. > > >pin 58 on the ecu - green w red stripe. left hand terminal on coilpack >connector. 1.37 ign on cranking goes up to 1.77 >pin 59 on the ecu - green w yellow stripe rh term on coilpack connector. >1.39 >ign on cranking goes up to 1.79 >pin 57 (or 37) on the ecu - black wire 12.2v with ignition on. centre term >on >coilpack remains constant. > > >These low voltages would explain why there is no spark but I can't >understand >why they would be so low. > > >The wire from the old coil loom to the ecu runs through a black box which >does contain at least one relay which can be heard latching upon switching the > >ignition on. > Mark Miles > >Manager >Bar Square >8 Market Place >Wokingham >Berkshire >RG40 1AL > > >07522 67 60 57 > > > > > ________________________________ From: Jim Hearne <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Fri, 20 May, 2011 14:17:11 >Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion > > >All Zetecs have an electronic road speed sensor for the ecu fitted onto the >speedo drive on the gearbox. >On cars with a mechanical speedo the cable attaches to the speed sensor >which >in turn attaches to the gearbox. >On cars with a electronic speedo there is no outlet for the speedo cable >and >the electronic speedo uses the same signal as the ecu. > >Without it fitted you will have idle speed issues though nothing major and >it's certainly not causing your current problem. > >The old coil connection should have power on the black wire, the green wire >just goes back to the rev counter. >I hope this loom adaptor has several relays in it and it isn't trying to >run >the Zetec power straight from the old coil feed. >The black wire on the old ignition coil should just be feeding a relay, >this >is turn should switch battery power to the ecu. > >Jim > > >From: Mark Miles >>Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 2:08 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion >> >> >>I don't believe it was from an auto. The road speed sensor is a >>mechanical >>cable so not that. I will let Peter know what those voltages should be. >>What voltages should there be on the old coil wires, there are wires on >>the >>loom adapter that connect to those as well, I assume that that is the >>ignition switched supply to the new ecu. >> >> >>Cheers >> Mark Miles >> >>Manager >>Bar Square >>8 Market Place >>Wokingham >>Berkshire >>RG40 1AL >> >> >>07522 67 60 57 >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: Jim Hearne <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Fri, 20 May, 2011 13:55:46 >>Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion >> >>What car is the engine and wiring from ? >>Are you sure it's not the road speed sensor connector (fitted onto >>gearbox >>speedo drive), a 3 pin connector. >> >>The coil should have 12v ignition on the centre pin. >>The outer 2 pins will also be 12v but will drop while the engine is >>running. >> >>The engine wasn't from an automatic was it ? >> >>Jim >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------- >>From: "taximark" <[email protected]> >>Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 1:47 PM >>To: "Quantum Owners Group" <[email protected]> >>Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion >> >>> First major hiccup, the engine is in, the looms are spliced but there >>> is still no spark. There is a connector on the new loom for an engine >>> speed sensor( labelled as such), but appears to be none on the new >>> engine. The crank position sensor and the cam phase sensor are both >>> connected. Any suggestions on whether this is a major issue. the coil >>> pack has three wires going to it, does anyone know what the voltages >>> should be on these three wires? >>> >>> Thanks for your advice >>> >>> mark >> >> >> >>-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. >>To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>[email protected] >>For more options, visit this group at >>http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en >> >>IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As >>Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. 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