On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Eric Shelton <knockkn...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 9:12:26 PM UTC-4, Outback Dingo wrote: >> >> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:00 PM, <drew....@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi folks, >> > >> > I'm still having a few issues with the freezing of the system, and >> > requiring >> > some information regarding Windows Tools. >> > I'm getting nowhere in the user area, so I'm here to find out the >> > answers to >> > these questions as no dev has answered this on there and all I get is >> > attacked by people that think I know nothing and am wrong. >> > >> > But anyway... >> >> Yeah good luck with that, unfortunatley Qubes support appears to >> royally suck.... Ive been trying to get some answers on why XEN >> passthru is still broken >> after 6+ months, and nothing, no response..... nice idea, badly >> implemented, terrible support...... > > > Outback Dingo: > > I am going to repeat a suggestion I made back when I tried helping you out, > as it seems like you never tried it and it is a fairly inexpensive, simple, > and effective solution. > > Get rid of the Realtek network adapter. With the exception of the venerable > RTL8139, I have found their ethernet adapters to be a consistent pain under > Linux; you often need firmware blobs, etc. I imagine their wifi adapters > are even worse. Not every piece of hardware is going to work under open > source. Years ago you had to be careful to pick and choose hardware > components with Linux compatibility in mind, and sometimes you still have > to. > > My experience is that it is pretty easy to open up a laptop/notebook with a > #0 Philips head screwdriver (or a pentalobe driver for a Mac) and swap out a > MiniPCIE wifi or wifi/bluetooth adapter. It's usually right next to the RAM > (not that there is much room for it to go anywhere else). You can get a > compatible replacement wifi adapter for about $25 on eBay. Get an adapter > that is not bleeding edge - Broadcom and Atheros (and maybe Intel) chipsets > seem to consistently work well - there are plenty of compatibility reports > out there to work with. Some laptops (for example, some Lenovo machnes) > present BIOS whitelisting difficulties (although there is often a > replacement BIOS to handle that), but in general it is really simple. >
as for the wireless it is a 03:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 32) for which only a recent fedora actually has drivers for lately, like a late F24, and now F25 the issue is its core dumping on the lan module, i would maybe guess due to the shared pci bus, however like i explained before F24 and XEN EFI worked fine. I shouldnt have to butcher my laptop when plainly put this is a qubes issue and has been for months. It just needs to be fixed. > If you are unwilling to do this, then I suppose you are just being stubborn. > Although being stubborn can be OK - open source has benefited from lots of > stubborn people who constructively direct that stubbornness into dogged > effort at investigating and solving such problems - it's not so great when > it instead results in complaining, trashing people, and demanding others do > that effort instead. If you really want to insist on that particular wifi > adapter working under Qubes, maybe it will be more productive to direct your > grief at the party that's actually responsible - Realtek - since other > companies' wifi adapters end up doing PCI passthrough OK, but apparently not > theirs. > > Eric > (who thinks your issue got a good bit more than "nothing, no response") > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "qubes-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to qubes-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to qubes-devel@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/3daf86e5-7d16-452f-9b2a-6e25205ce3e3%40googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-devel@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/CAKYr3zyREtg2FEa0KWXzn_xO0Uxg9x3f%3D8TSx4YRvPxmpqzFzg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
