Le samedi 20 janvier 2018 03:07:32 UTC+1, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki a écrit : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:11:02PM +0000, Unman wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 08:32:50PM +0100, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm building what hopefully will be R4.0-rc4 and I have two > > > reflections: > > > > > > 1. After upgrading templates to fedora-26 and debian-9, there is no way > > > the installation image will fit on DVD. Right now it takes 4908384256 > > > bytes. We probably could try to cut it down by eliminating even more > > > packages from templates, but I think there is no much non-essential > > > packages left there. For example we no longer ship vim in debian-9. > > > Right now I see two options: > > > - abandon the goal of fitting the image on DVD (I'd go for this) > > > - exclude some template from default installation... > > > > I would , of course, favour a Debian system as default. > > But until we migrate dom0 to something else, we need to ship fedora > template too, because it works better for downloading dom0 updates (the > same tool resolve dependencies, yum version in Debian is much older, and > there is no dnf at all). > > > However, it would be useful if you could give the relative template > > sizes on the current build. > > Sure[1][2]: > > fedora-26: 1643586746 bytes > debian-9: 722214642 bytes > whonix-gw: 504932958 bytes > whonix-ws: 705727858 bytes > > fedora-26, as default template for AppVMs, contains default user > applications, like Firefox, Thunderbird. Shipping a _desktop_ operating > system without web browser isn't going to work... > > But maybe there is a chance to trim Fedora template slightly... > Frédéric, do you see something that could easily be done there?
Sure, I will review today the packages and groups list to see if I can reduce the template size. > > As far as trimming the templates, there is some scope for this, but one > > of the problems is that people want what THEY like. Look at issue 1781 for > > a great example of this. > > > > Cant dom0 be trimmed further? > > That's a good question. List of packages, sorted by size is here: > https://gist.github.com/marmarek/cb9fa3d82e3aba6cd15c78854b184f10 > > For example I see two fonts packages (adobe-source-han-*) using together > over 70MB. > > > I am strongly in favour of an image that fits on a DVD - would there be > > any reason not to offer Fedora and Debian as alternatives if the size > > issue proves insuperable? > > Providing two images means some more work, more testing etc, so I'd like > to avoid that. But if there will no better option, that could be done. > > [1] https://yum.qubes-os.org/r4.0/templates-itl/rpm/ > [2] https://yum.qubes-os.org/r4.0/templates-community/rpm/ > > - -- > Best Regards, > Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > Invisible Things Lab > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEhrpukzGPukRmQqkK24/THMrX1ywFAlpipD0ACgkQ24/THMrX > 1yxY8Af/aiT/HgU6q20GocElHqwIjn0k2Wh7ZCADiZqPMtgViWvKRTggzMPtCBLV > ltnngAcLZExR866eyo8UIYU31yw5XWQM6SL0J0K9wZKkFcYnUqmvev7Owf6WibGy > a8N5Sn4cuQpqqyvDLhX4AMb+S+ITx/wSZmcL0rt/Oh2zCTQUdaM8q4ONjZEjtxvH > 2GnuRL70qBSaJs6v6i6w1rYVJiDzqDC3l176eYh/xCbM/jlfqXwsn6tgdK+Iyi5R > hwtXdAN9e0h5ZQ56pWMBDORuXT2rDLQavJZnpmKKdglBF/E9XmyLvYR48FuLWbB3 > 3SW11qgol6Y7KmbRpYU0pDwhOYOOnA== > =0YUP > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/379497f9-934d-4a90-8452-a2be0cfad408%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
