I'd also be strongly in favour of a minimal install image that would fit on a single layer DVD or small portable stick. In my ideal world, this would contain a minimal(ish) template with firmware as full fat for wireless cards, plus whatever is needed to install templates over tor.
On first boot after install, the user is prompted as to whether they would like full fat fedora, debian, whonix etc. I'm happy to hamfistedly try and produce a little GUI for this if it would in fact be welcome. Colloquially and from what I've seen in person it isn't uncommon (even on modern hardware that reboots fast) for people to install their system, play with it for a bit (i.e. setup their email account in Thunderbird, browse / login some websites) and THEN check for updates and reboot at the end of the day / when they absolutely have to. That was one of my motivations behind querying a 3.2.1 release before all this meltdown/spectre stuff kicked off (thanks awokd btw for the work on that). Without giving some colorful example of a user (forbidden in the code of conduct), it seems likely many "ordinary" users would fit this and leave themselves at some sort of risk while setting up their machine. I've seen in previous years even fellow sysadmins (who should know better) do this when under time pressure. The 3.2.1 ticket [1] demonstrated the work required in building just new point release iso, would it be helpful to have some individuals on some arbitrary schedule of your choosing try and produce a build to identify issues (and fix if they can). Again, I'm happy to volunteer my time on this if it's helpful (not currently clear on whether the bottleneck is build system time or/and availability of engineering time in documenting / addressing issues). Best, Vince [1] https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3426 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-devel/vK_wqH5pV1nGbcDs8nvpATJm1lwumtEpZXwRzv29CHmhy-Z8IAFi8lGtsNYeyz8noLFH0wvNxZ0SKVlwNlKV02HLfF9_ccgV8xIgPi3Uu88%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
