On 30 Jun 2010, at 02:39, john muhl wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Jim Gay <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Haselwanter Edmund
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 29.06.2010, at 19:47, Jim Gay wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm glad you brought this up for discussion.
>>> 
>>> It just felt right after following the github discussion :-)
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Edmund Haselwanter
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> A question for clarification:
>>> 
>>> [ .. snippet .. ]
>>> 
>>>>> wouldn't it be wise to concentrate on just one (nifty) asset
>>>>> extension?
>>>>> I see an asset extension as a vital part of a CMS (=> see, it says
>>>>> content ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> Yes.
>>>> Check out the prototype http://github.com/radiant/radiant-prototype
>>>> 
>>>> And there are tickets like
>>>> http://github.com/radiant/radiant/issues#issue/28 (sns) and
>>> 
>>> <quote jlong>
>>> 
>>> jlong February 18, 2010 | link
>>> There's a little more work to do on this in the prototype, mainly the upload
>>> interface. I believe Chris Parish has had ambitions for simplifying his 
>>> styles 'n
>>> scripts extension to serve this purpose. If it is going to make it into 0.9 
>>> it
>>> should be implemented as an extension that ships with the core.
>>> 
>>> </quote jlong>
>>> 
>>> That's exactly how I see it too :-)
>> 
>> SNS needs some more thought (which I happen to be doing
>> http://www.saturnflyer.com/blog/jim/2010/06/29/ruby-metaprogramming-is-awesome/
>> ) but I see that as a necessity for managing a site (along with
>> image/file management of course).
> 
> having your css and js in the admin interface is a necessity? i tried
> to love sns but never could find any benefit to not having the files
> on disk.

My users sometimes edit css, and I often tweak it in small ways. SNS means I 
don't have to redeploy. But mostly I keep it in the filesystem, as you say.


>> <snip>
>> Yes, but partly because paperclipped had so much more done. Keith did
>> a great job creating it and it's feature set blows page_attachments
>> out of the water, but as I've heard John Muhl point out, some users
>> find the interface (like the assets bucket) confusing and the
>> simplicity of a list on a page (a la page_attachments) is very easy to
>> understand.
> 
> it's true. i've tried paperclipped on three occasions and all three
> times it ended up being pulled due to the "commoners" not really
> getting the interface. with p_a they get it almost immediately; it's
> like attachments in email and everybody seems to understand that.

I find they get used to the bucket, but it's not ideal at all. I would like to 
see a much simpler interface that also offers snippets and anything else 
another extension cares to add. I have to update paperclipped first, but then I 
mean to try that in a separate extension.

will

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