You didn't answer my question, though ;)

Why do we need a conference?

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Pat

On 09/06/2010, at 11:47 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote:

> Hey Pat, Ben,
>   Thanks for your input. I'm at least abstractly aware of what I'm
> signing up for, and have had a hand in organizing large 1000+ people
> church events before.
> 
> I do feel that we should have a mix of both respected International
> Speakers and Local Speakers, and that it should be an event not to be
> missed.
> 
> After I get this expression of interest, I will move forward with
> organizing a team of people, and more importantly getting a feel for
> exactly who/what/when/howmuch people are interested in.
> 
> This is more just a 'Do you want me to bother starting to organize
> that level of event'
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Luke
> 
> On 9 June 2010 11:28, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> As Ben's pointed out, this isn't the first time the topic has been raised... 
>> I'm often quite vocal about it, so apologies to those who've heard me go on 
>> about this before, but here's a few things to consider:
>> 
>> * Putting on a Rails Camp is a lot of work. Putting on a conference is a 
>> level beyond that. Who is going to pay for your time? I definitely think 
>> whoever runs the conference (and don't try and do it yourself - you need a 
>> small team!) should be paid at least something for putting it together, but 
>> conferences are also most certainly not money-making ventures.
>> 
>> * Speaking of Rails Camps - we have two of these each year. Granted, they're 
>> a little different, and not everyone's cup of tea, but I think it's still 
>> worth asking: why do we need a conference? I'm not saying we definitely 
>> don't need one, but just want to get the thinking laid out.
>> 
>> * Many regional conferences are quite informal affairs - something I feel 
>> Rails Camps cover quite neatly. So, if a conference was to happen, I think 
>> it should be a grand and special event - more like a FutureRuby or 
>> NordicRuby than a RailsConf. Great food, catered parties, quality speakers. 
>> Especially if we want to attract overseas speakers and attendees. This is 
>> not the cheap path, though.
>> 
>> For what it's worth, I've gotten to several conferences over the last few 
>> years, and FutureRuby was far and away the best one. Happy to expand further 
>> on why if anyone's truly interested.
>> 
>> * There are a lot of Ruby and Rails conferences around the world already. 
>> Europe had four in May! Yes, we are pretty remote, so most of us don't get 
>> to these conferences often (or at all), but the same will apply for those 
>> outside of Australia who we'd like to have come along to our conference.
>> 
>> * The previous point is important because a good part of the Australian Ruby 
>> community see each other regularly as it is, via monthly meets and Rails 
>> Camps. We've got a pretty amazing community here, and I want to share that 
>> with the world - but it's not going to be easy.
>> 
>> 
>> I don't want to put an end to these discussions, because I think there's 
>> great potential for an amazing event, and I'd love to help out, but I'm also 
>> wary that with regular Rails Camps, we've got community events kinda covered 
>> already, and want to make sure there's a need. And, should this happen, I 
>> just think the target from the start should be to run something a cut above 
>> normal. Hell, a cut above great.
>> 
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>> On 09/06/2010, at 10:48 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>     I discovered, in a discussion last night at the Sydney Meetup,
>>> that there has never been a Ruby/Rails Conference in Australia. I find
>>> this to be sad, and want to rectify the situation.
>>> 
>>> I am happy to take a hand in starting to organize an event if there is
>>> interest in actually seeing it happen.
>>> 
>>> To get the ball rolling, can I get a show of hands who would attend a
>>> RubyConf in Sydney?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Luke
>>> 
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