Which is still a lot better than that amount plus airfares/taxes/gambling in Vegas.
I do feel that if we're going to do this we should go all out, but that's jumping ahead, we're talking abstract 'do you want it' at this point. On 9 June 2010 13:07, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote: > First two points are good ones. With regards to pricing, it's worth noting > that a high-end conference (which is what I think this should be) will cost > $700 or more, so factoring in travel and hotels for everyone not in the host > city, it's still an outlay of $1k+ for most. > > On 09/06/2010, at 12:22 PM, Luke Chadwick wrote: > >> - Because there are plenty of people that can't justify the ~5k >> minimum required to think about going to one overseas. >> - Because It is important to provide people access to (some) the best >> Rubyists in the world. >> - Because there is no good reason why we shouldn't have one. >> >> On 9 June 2010 12:08, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> You didn't answer my question, though ;) >>> >>> Why do we need a conference? >>> >>> -- >>> Pat >>> >>> On 09/06/2010, at 11:47 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Pat, Ben, >>>> Thanks for your input. I'm at least abstractly aware of what I'm >>>> signing up for, and have had a hand in organizing large 1000+ people >>>> church events before. >>>> >>>> I do feel that we should have a mix of both respected International >>>> Speakers and Local Speakers, and that it should be an event not to be >>>> missed. >>>> >>>> After I get this expression of interest, I will move forward with >>>> organizing a team of people, and more importantly getting a feel for >>>> exactly who/what/when/howmuch people are interested in. >>>> >>>> This is more just a 'Do you want me to bother starting to organize >>>> that level of event' >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> >>>> On 9 June 2010 11:28, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> As Ben's pointed out, this isn't the first time the topic has been >>>>> raised... I'm often quite vocal about it, so apologies to those who've >>>>> heard me go on about this before, but here's a few things to consider: >>>>> >>>>> * Putting on a Rails Camp is a lot of work. Putting on a conference is a >>>>> level beyond that. Who is going to pay for your time? I definitely think >>>>> whoever runs the conference (and don't try and do it yourself - you need >>>>> a small team!) should be paid at least something for putting it together, >>>>> but conferences are also most certainly not money-making ventures. >>>>> >>>>> * Speaking of Rails Camps - we have two of these each year. Granted, >>>>> they're a little different, and not everyone's cup of tea, but I think >>>>> it's still worth asking: why do we need a conference? I'm not saying we >>>>> definitely don't need one, but just want to get the thinking laid out. >>>>> >>>>> * Many regional conferences are quite informal affairs - something I feel >>>>> Rails Camps cover quite neatly. So, if a conference was to happen, I >>>>> think it should be a grand and special event - more like a FutureRuby or >>>>> NordicRuby than a RailsConf. Great food, catered parties, quality >>>>> speakers. Especially if we want to attract overseas speakers and >>>>> attendees. This is not the cheap path, though. >>>>> >>>>> For what it's worth, I've gotten to several conferences over the last few >>>>> years, and FutureRuby was far and away the best one. Happy to expand >>>>> further on why if anyone's truly interested. >>>>> >>>>> * There are a lot of Ruby and Rails conferences around the world already. >>>>> Europe had four in May! Yes, we are pretty remote, so most of us don't >>>>> get to these conferences often (or at all), but the same will apply for >>>>> those outside of Australia who we'd like to have come along to our >>>>> conference. >>>>> >>>>> * The previous point is important because a good part of the Australian >>>>> Ruby community see each other regularly as it is, via monthly meets and >>>>> Rails Camps. We've got a pretty amazing community here, and I want to >>>>> share that with the world - but it's not going to be easy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't want to put an end to these discussions, because I think there's >>>>> great potential for an amazing event, and I'd love to help out, but I'm >>>>> also wary that with regular Rails Camps, we've got community events kinda >>>>> covered already, and want to make sure there's a need. And, should this >>>>> happen, I just think the target from the start should be to run something >>>>> a cut above normal. Hell, a cut above great. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Pat >>>>> e: [email protected] || m: +614 1327 3337 >>>>> w: http://freelancing-gods.com || t: twitter.com/pat >>>>> bounce: http://trampolineday.com || skype: patallan >>>>> >>>>> On 09/06/2010, at 10:48 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Everyone, >>>>>> I discovered, in a discussion last night at the Sydney Meetup, >>>>>> that there has never been a Ruby/Rails Conference in Australia. I find >>>>>> this to be sad, and want to rectify the situation. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am happy to take a hand in starting to organize an event if there is >>>>>> interest in actually seeing it happen. >>>>>> >>>>>> To get the ball rolling, can I get a show of hands who would attend a >>>>>> RubyConf in Sydney? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Luke >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. 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