First two points are good ones. With regards to pricing, it's worth noting that a high-end conference (which is what I think this should be) will cost $700 or more, so factoring in travel and hotels for everyone not in the host city, it's still an outlay of $1k+ for most.
On 09/06/2010, at 12:22 PM, Luke Chadwick wrote: > - Because there are plenty of people that can't justify the ~5k > minimum required to think about going to one overseas. > - Because It is important to provide people access to (some) the best > Rubyists in the world. > - Because there is no good reason why we shouldn't have one. > > On 9 June 2010 12:08, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote: >> You didn't answer my question, though ;) >> >> Why do we need a conference? >> >> -- >> Pat >> >> On 09/06/2010, at 11:47 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote: >> >>> Hey Pat, Ben, >>> Thanks for your input. I'm at least abstractly aware of what I'm >>> signing up for, and have had a hand in organizing large 1000+ people >>> church events before. >>> >>> I do feel that we should have a mix of both respected International >>> Speakers and Local Speakers, and that it should be an event not to be >>> missed. >>> >>> After I get this expression of interest, I will move forward with >>> organizing a team of people, and more importantly getting a feel for >>> exactly who/what/when/howmuch people are interested in. >>> >>> This is more just a 'Do you want me to bother starting to organize >>> that level of event' >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Luke >>> >>> On 9 June 2010 11:28, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> As Ben's pointed out, this isn't the first time the topic has been >>>> raised... I'm often quite vocal about it, so apologies to those who've >>>> heard me go on about this before, but here's a few things to consider: >>>> >>>> * Putting on a Rails Camp is a lot of work. Putting on a conference is a >>>> level beyond that. Who is going to pay for your time? I definitely think >>>> whoever runs the conference (and don't try and do it yourself - you need a >>>> small team!) should be paid at least something for putting it together, >>>> but conferences are also most certainly not money-making ventures. >>>> >>>> * Speaking of Rails Camps - we have two of these each year. Granted, >>>> they're a little different, and not everyone's cup of tea, but I think >>>> it's still worth asking: why do we need a conference? I'm not saying we >>>> definitely don't need one, but just want to get the thinking laid out. >>>> >>>> * Many regional conferences are quite informal affairs - something I feel >>>> Rails Camps cover quite neatly. So, if a conference was to happen, I think >>>> it should be a grand and special event - more like a FutureRuby or >>>> NordicRuby than a RailsConf. Great food, catered parties, quality >>>> speakers. Especially if we want to attract overseas speakers and >>>> attendees. This is not the cheap path, though. >>>> >>>> For what it's worth, I've gotten to several conferences over the last few >>>> years, and FutureRuby was far and away the best one. Happy to expand >>>> further on why if anyone's truly interested. >>>> >>>> * There are a lot of Ruby and Rails conferences around the world already. >>>> Europe had four in May! Yes, we are pretty remote, so most of us don't get >>>> to these conferences often (or at all), but the same will apply for those >>>> outside of Australia who we'd like to have come along to our conference. >>>> >>>> * The previous point is important because a good part of the Australian >>>> Ruby community see each other regularly as it is, via monthly meets and >>>> Rails Camps. We've got a pretty amazing community here, and I want to >>>> share that with the world - but it's not going to be easy. >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't want to put an end to these discussions, because I think there's >>>> great potential for an amazing event, and I'd love to help out, but I'm >>>> also wary that with regular Rails Camps, we've got community events kinda >>>> covered already, and want to make sure there's a need. And, should this >>>> happen, I just think the target from the start should be to run something >>>> a cut above normal. Hell, a cut above great. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Pat >>>> e: [email protected] || m: +614 1327 3337 >>>> w: http://freelancing-gods.com || t: twitter.com/pat >>>> bounce: http://trampolineday.com || skype: patallan >>>> >>>> On 09/06/2010, at 10:48 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey Everyone, >>>>> I discovered, in a discussion last night at the Sydney Meetup, >>>>> that there has never been a Ruby/Rails Conference in Australia. I find >>>>> this to be sad, and want to rectify the situation. >>>>> >>>>> I am happy to take a hand in starting to organize an event if there is >>>>> interest in actually seeing it happen. >>>>> >>>>> To get the ball rolling, can I get a show of hands who would attend a >>>>> RubyConf in Sydney? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Luke >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. 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