- Because there are plenty of people that can't justify the ~5k minimum required to think about going to one overseas. - Because It is important to provide people access to (some) the best Rubyists in the world. - Because there is no good reason why we shouldn't have one.
On 9 June 2010 12:08, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote: > You didn't answer my question, though ;) > > Why do we need a conference? > > -- > Pat > > On 09/06/2010, at 11:47 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote: > >> Hey Pat, Ben, >> Thanks for your input. I'm at least abstractly aware of what I'm >> signing up for, and have had a hand in organizing large 1000+ people >> church events before. >> >> I do feel that we should have a mix of both respected International >> Speakers and Local Speakers, and that it should be an event not to be >> missed. >> >> After I get this expression of interest, I will move forward with >> organizing a team of people, and more importantly getting a feel for >> exactly who/what/when/howmuch people are interested in. >> >> This is more just a 'Do you want me to bother starting to organize >> that level of event' >> >> Regards, >> >> Luke >> >> On 9 June 2010 11:28, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> As Ben's pointed out, this isn't the first time the topic has been >>> raised... I'm often quite vocal about it, so apologies to those who've >>> heard me go on about this before, but here's a few things to consider: >>> >>> * Putting on a Rails Camp is a lot of work. Putting on a conference is a >>> level beyond that. Who is going to pay for your time? I definitely think >>> whoever runs the conference (and don't try and do it yourself - you need a >>> small team!) should be paid at least something for putting it together, but >>> conferences are also most certainly not money-making ventures. >>> >>> * Speaking of Rails Camps - we have two of these each year. Granted, >>> they're a little different, and not everyone's cup of tea, but I think it's >>> still worth asking: why do we need a conference? I'm not saying we >>> definitely don't need one, but just want to get the thinking laid out. >>> >>> * Many regional conferences are quite informal affairs - something I feel >>> Rails Camps cover quite neatly. So, if a conference was to happen, I think >>> it should be a grand and special event - more like a FutureRuby or >>> NordicRuby than a RailsConf. Great food, catered parties, quality speakers. >>> Especially if we want to attract overseas speakers and attendees. This is >>> not the cheap path, though. >>> >>> For what it's worth, I've gotten to several conferences over the last few >>> years, and FutureRuby was far and away the best one. Happy to expand >>> further on why if anyone's truly interested. >>> >>> * There are a lot of Ruby and Rails conferences around the world already. >>> Europe had four in May! Yes, we are pretty remote, so most of us don't get >>> to these conferences often (or at all), but the same will apply for those >>> outside of Australia who we'd like to have come along to our conference. >>> >>> * The previous point is important because a good part of the Australian >>> Ruby community see each other regularly as it is, via monthly meets and >>> Rails Camps. We've got a pretty amazing community here, and I want to share >>> that with the world - but it's not going to be easy. >>> >>> >>> I don't want to put an end to these discussions, because I think there's >>> great potential for an amazing event, and I'd love to help out, but I'm >>> also wary that with regular Rails Camps, we've got community events kinda >>> covered already, and want to make sure there's a need. And, should this >>> happen, I just think the target from the start should be to run something a >>> cut above normal. Hell, a cut above great. >>> >>> -- >>> Pat >>> e: [email protected] || m: +614 1327 3337 >>> w: http://freelancing-gods.com || t: twitter.com/pat >>> bounce: http://trampolineday.com || skype: patallan >>> >>> On 09/06/2010, at 10:48 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Everyone, >>>> I discovered, in a discussion last night at the Sydney Meetup, >>>> that there has never been a Ruby/Rails Conference in Australia. I find >>>> this to be sad, and want to rectify the situation. >>>> >>>> I am happy to take a hand in starting to organize an event if there is >>>> interest in actually seeing it happen. >>>> >>>> To get the ball rolling, can I get a show of hands who would attend a >>>> RubyConf in Sydney? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. 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