Re: [RR] Spank'n the sassy boy..

[Bob Simons]

Then you should omit this part at the bottom General comments Never take a child out of site of the group. Bob Simons   For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: Victor Zalakos To: Bob Simons Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [RR] Spank'n the sassy boy.. Bob, Why do you say "in front of the others" Only the child, the senior commander and commander are present. At 08:18 PM 1/10/2001 -0700, you wrote: Only problem with that is that we are not to discipline any boy in front of the others. Right there in the Leaders manual and LTC Course. This causes public humiliation which can be hard to undo. We have a 2 page problem sheet to fill out and go over with the boy. care for a copy anyone? Bob Simons   For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: Victor Zalakos To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [RR] Spank'n the sassy boy.. Great post Adrian. Here is the Discipline policy we used in my outpost. It is based on one created by Adrian's Senior COmmander, Paul Robinson: --------------------- The advantages of a discipline policy are numerous and include: �       helping your leaders understand what to do �       being consistent �       a great fall back against a "hostile" or rather upset parent ("Well the discipline policy states...") �       a load of your mind (because you know you ought to have something like this...) Blaxland Royal Rangers Discipline Code Control and supervision 1. Each outpost leader is responsible for the control and supervision of their own group. Each ranger should be disciplined in a constructive and positive manner and within the guidelines laid down in Royal Ranger leader's materials and the Child Protection Manual. 2. If a ranger continues to disobey their commander, is rebellious and continues to disrupt and disturb the group, the commander will bring the child to the Senior Commander for a Formal Discipline Parade. Formal Discipline Parade 3. In the Formal Discipline Parade, the commander and the child stand and face the Senior Commander and the commander states the offence. 4. The child is asked whether they agree with the commanders account of the incident and whether they would like to add anything further. 5. The child is then asked if they are sorry for their actions. 6. The Senior Commander will encourage the child to repent for the rebellious act. 7. The Senior Commander and commander then express their forgiveness to the child. Punishment 8. The Senior Commander will then determine the punishment for the offence. Any punishment should take into account the age of the child and the severity of the offence. The Senior Commander may confer with the commander and advise of any punishment subsequent to the Formal Discipline Parade. Escalation to suspension 9. If a Ranger continues to be rebellious and a disruption to the group, and the behaviour is not consistent with their repentance, then the option to suspend the child for 1 or 2 nights or deny attendance to a forthcoming outing is considered. Prior to this action, a letter is sent home to the parents, and followed up with a personal visit to attain parental involvement and agreement. 10. Longer term suspension is considered after repeated short term suspensions. Prior to this action, a letter is sent home to the parents, and followed up with a personal visit to gauge the home life, parent involvement with the child and a method for further referral is agreed on. General comments Never take a child out of site of the group. Physical punishment is strictly forbidden. Once forgiven, always forgotten At 10:27 AM 2/10/2001 +1000, The Larrikin wrote: > The bible says that God chastises all of us.  Abused or > not we all get it from God now and again.  The Bible > says rebellion is in the heart of a child and the rod > of correction drives it far from him.  While we must > be vigilant to oppose abuse, we must also be vigilant > to apply some rod when necessary.  It is nice to see > that someone is not ashamed of discipline. I know if I smack a boy, I'd out thrown out of Rangers. For me, I would ask the child a second time and explain why, then if he persists he is in rebellion and the Senior Commnader needs to become involved. And unless the Snr Commander request you stay, you leave it up to him. Some might see this as passing the buck, but it is not, it is used the chain of commander within the Outpost. The boy then must face the consquences of his actions as decided by the Commander. There's a storm coming, our Storm. PROCLAIMING GOD'S LOVE TO A DYING WORLD Say to the captives, 'come out,' and those in darkness, 'Be free!' Isaiah 49:9 Love in Jesus Adrian Bonham aka Morning Light, The Larrikin I looked to the heavens to where God dwells I looked into my life to see he lives there as well. Outpost 49 Hawkesbury Royal Rangers Windsor, N.S.W. Australia F.C.F. 94 http://www.summit.net.au/~founder1/ _______  To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm  http://rangernet.org  Autoresponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED]