We try to discourage boys from leaving the meetings.  However, these are
BOYS.  Allowing them to wet themselves is humiliating and inexcusable, not
to mention the rash you inflicting on them.  Don't bother trying to coerce
me.  It won't work.  Having a son with a paralyzed colon makes me INCREDIBLY
biased on this issue.  Meaning if my son were not allowed to leave the room
and he had a BM in his pants, I would remove him instantly from that
commander's care.  No questions asked.  Then I would go straight to a
meeting with the Senior Commander and the Pastor.  There is no reason for
such behavior.  None what so ever.  Ever heard of the Buddy System?
 
Sorry if I come on strong, but I have been dealing with this issue for 11
years.  Every time I do my son's laundry I am reminded of my son's condition
and I pray over it cause I know how much it hurts and shames him.  You don't
know if there is a similar situation with the any one of your boys.  Not all
parents talk about it because your child will beg you not too.  
 
Cmdr. Kelly

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 1:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RR] Spank'n the sassy boy..


It might be wet shoes this time and no life preserver the next. I had 2 boys
think that life preservers weren't necessary and cumbersome. I made them get
out and walk halfway around the lake to get back to camp. They were mad at
me but I don't want dead bodies on my outings.
I do know of a man who died from coral poisioning from not wearing shoes
while walking on coral. You never know!
Sure its extreme thinking but disobedience has to start and stop somewhere.
I think that his grandfather had some wisdom at least more than some kid.
Thats where respect comes in. My Dad taught me respect when I said something
that was disrespectful. I hope that I can teach my boys the same thing but
that seems to be a hard job because of what a lot of adults are preaching.
"Question Authority" is unscriptural. Its black & white to me -not even
grey. The only possible exception would be what we already talked about
concerning the gospel, a higher authority.
My true story about my own son is just one example of disobedience that
could have been deadly. I'm not one of those who believes in avoiding any
kind of fun because it might be dangerous but I also think good judgement
can save an outing from going bad.
 
I had an incident in Rangers where a boy wet himself because he wasn't
allowed to leave the room and he didn't go at the beginning when everyone
else did. The Dad was irate at the incident but my question was to him "Why
weren't you in there helping the commander so that someone could have stayed
in the room with the rest of the boys." He said he was busy...too busy to be
there when his son needed him..I guess.
The Commander was running it all alone.
Passing the blame is all to common place, these days.
Bob Simons
 
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD,
"plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give 
you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11
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I would rather bruise a boys backside than have to explain why their son is
dead.  I'm sure you all know what I mean if you think for a minute of the
many
dangers on a campout.  I have seen kids disobey and had some close calls
including my own sons. A coffin doesn't give you a second chance to do what
God tells you to do.  OBEY.  I have some devotions about this very
thing-anyone want to hear one?  Bob Simons



I didn't realize that not putting on wet shoes would kill a boy.

Let's hear the devotion.

Michael 



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