His Dad was a commander who quit!!!!!!!!! My job is to stand up for my commanders. I'm the SR. Commander and I should have been able to go from room and help but instead I had to be in with the older boys because of lack of help. Being irate doesn't make it excusable but also not being there isn't an excuse either. Be there for your son or not cast blame thats all I'm saying. I now have some women who have come forward to help since the men are too wishy washy. I don't even have my own sons in Rangers anymore and I'm there every week and campout. There seems to be lack of committment among men these days. I can't do my job properly if we are short handed as I'm sure no one can. Bob Simons
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [RR] Spank'n the sassy boy.. > In a message dated Tue, 2 Oct 2001 2:36:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Bob Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It might be wet shoes this time and no life preserver the next. I had 2 boys think that life preservers weren't necessary and cumbersome. > > I made them get out and walk halfway around the lake to get back to camp. They were mad at me but I don't want dead bodies on my outings. > > I do know of a man who died from coral poisioning from not wearing shoes while walking on coral. You never know! > > Sure its extreme thinking but disobedience has to start and stop somewhere. I think that his grandfather had some wisdom at least more than some kid. > > "Some kid"??? This is from someone who is supposed to care about boys? It's as if "Commanders" on this list suddenly think they've become the almighty ruler of everything. Do the boys in your outpost bow to you? > > > > Thats where respect comes in. My Dad taught me respect when I said something that was disrespectful. > > My dad earned my respect - he never forced it on me. > > I hope that I can teach my boys the same thing > > but that seems to be a hard job because of what a lot of adults are preaching. "Question Authority" is unscriptural. Its black & white to me -not even > > grey. The only possible exception would be what we already talked about concerning the gospel, a higher authority. > > If there are exceptions then it isn't black and white. You can't have it both ways. Pick one. > > > My true story about my own son is just one example of > > disobedience that could have been deadly. I'm not one of those who believes in avoiding any kind of fun because it might be dangerous but I also think good > > judgement can save an outing from going bad. > > > > I had an incident in Rangers where a boy wet himself because he wasn't allowed to leave the room and he didn't go at the beginning when everyone else did. The Dad was irate at the incident but my question was to him "Why weren't you in there helping the commander so that someone could have stayed in the room with the rest of the boys." He said he was busy...too busy to > > be there when his son needed him..I guess. > > The Commander was running it all alone. > > Maybe Rangers isn't that dad's calling. Why would he have made a difference anyways - would dad have stayed in the room? Why would a commander take a boy to the restroom? Where was the senior commander? Where were the church deacons? Good thing this wasn't my son - irate would have only been the beginning. > > Michael > --------------------------------------------------------------- NetZero Platinum Only $9.95 per month! Sign up in September to win one of 30 Hawaiian Vacations for 2! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 _______ To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm http://rangernet.org Autoresponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
