--- "Kahunapule Michael P. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gun control is an emotional and controversial issue.
>
> You may be able to do some good with gun control. You can, however,
> never stop the problem by eliminating guns, and you can never eliminate
> guns. In PNG, guns are mostly illegal (except a few for police officers
> and the PNG Defence Force, and an occasional registered weapon), and yet
> criminals still smuggle or manufacture guns and use them in crimes
> there.
I was interested in reading that in the former Soviet Union the
guns used in crime where often dug up from WW2 battlefields and
made useible in many forms...
Today in Iraq the population is loaded with firearms, and in the middle
east and Isreal open carry is prudent.
In the USA... The importation of surplus guns has been big business
for decades! *Legal of course.. and while from time to time *I see
holsted handguns in public.. (Washington is a open carry legal state)
more and more concealed gun permits are being issued.
In the Vietnam War we had "gun control" and you might be surprised that
most US military personell were unarmed while on liberty. The fact of
all US Gun ownership is that it isn't a problem untill someone breaks
the peace and crosses up current law with the use of firearms.
Victor is strikeing a valid point in the doctrine of conscious objection.
I've shared that my Dad filed a CO status when drafted to the US Army
in WW2 on religious objection to armed service. He was asked if he
could serve as a medic.. *Yes he said. "Then can you also protect the
life of the wounded, if called upon in combat?"
*His answer was *yes... in defence of another if needed, in the EXTREAM!
This moral stance was on my mind during the entire Vietnam conflict.
*I did not share the same religious conviction, I felt released to
serve my country as a armed volenteer, and to do my duty as required.
*How does that effect my Religion... can a Christian be armed?
*Yes! Your "salvation" is not dependent on such questions..
your salvation is not won by any deed or lifestyle choice, but by
accepting the offer made possible by Christ's death on the cross.
If by that action we are forgiven... we remain forgiven untill
Christ judges us unworthy of his grace.
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>
> The idea that you can stop crime by removing all weapons is rather
> ignorant, since there are ALWAYS weapons of opportunity available when
> murder is in someone's heart. I face that extreme fear-based
> irrationality every time I get on a commercial airplane, now. Never in
> the history of the universe has anyone hijacked an airplane with
> tweezers, but they are forbidden to be carried on the airplane. Frankly,
> I believe that commercial aircraft would be safer if everyone were
> allowed to carry pocket knives again. Anyone attempting to hijack a
> plane would almost certainly bleed to death before he could complete his
> mass murder.
>
> The idea that it is a Christian duty for civilians to all carry deadly
> weapons and be willing to use them and take the law into your own hands
> is another idea that I have difficulty accepting, but I've seen it
> practiced and taught.
>
>
>
> At 16:23 22-07-03 -0400, Mike Burke wrote:
> >I think it's just the Devil doing that in which he was supposed to do
> before the Lord comes back. I can see this as clearly as you do. It's
> the Devil going down and taking as many as he can with him. The Devil is
> preying on the weak minded and taking advantage of it by twisting the
> truth around and getting everyone to believe in their own
> contradictions.
> >
> >Am I not correct about what this really is?
> >
> >Iron Mike
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Victor Zalakos
> >To: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 6:26 PM
> >Subject: Re: [RR] Bowling for Colombine
> >
> >This continues to trouble me.
> >Perhaps you can explain to a foreigner...
> >
> >Why is it that American Christians, will in the same breath, advocate
> the hoarding of guns and ammunition in the family home, yet stand back
> and watch as Christ is removed from every fabric of their society - and
> then vilify someone who stands up and asks "Why are we doing this?" ?
> >
> >Is it only folk from outside your country who can see the correlation
> between the massive numbers of homocides by shooting and the worship of
> guns?
> >
> >How can you keep a gun in a suburban home when having a gun in the home
> makes it nearly three times more likely that you or someone you care
> about will be murdered by a family member or intimate partner. (Gun
> Ownership as a Risk Factor for Homicide in the Home, Arthur L.
> Kellermann, MD, MPH; Frederick P. Rivara, MD, MPH; et al, The New
> England Journal of Medicine, Vol. 329, No. 15, October 7, 1993, pp.
> 1084-1091.)
> >
> >Are you aware that nearly 30,000 homicides were firearm related in 2000
> in the USA?
> >And that there were almost 120,000 non-fatal firearm assults in the
> same year?
> >
> >What's the deal?
>
>
> Kahunapule Michael P. Johnson
> Servant of Jesus Christ
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://eBible.org/mpj/
>
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