Obviously it is very clear that there is wide variety of differences in
opinions here. Would it not be prudent to respect each other for that
difference in beliefs?  Naturally I would expect differences in opinions
between people who are of different nationalities and it even goes deeper
into other things.  In the churches we call it denominations.
As long as we have professed Christ as our Savior and accepted that he died
for us, we are believed to be Christians. Yes, we can have differing beliefs
on things but we are still Christians. You can't change the facts.  A Holden
is an Australian car made by General Motors, just like a Saturn is also but
both are uniquely different,  but both are still cars (for example)  Both
have 4 wheels each and without them, they wouldn't go anywhere.

  Where I'm going with this is "Why are we dragging out a long argument here
that is loosing it's point pretty quickly because of the length of the
argument?  Why are we arguing anyway? Do we not realize that the Devil could
be using this to bring us down  by dividing us and getting this to a boiling
point?  The Devil knows if he can get us to the boiling point that he won
this little fight and I have to ask, why let him win it?  It's not
necessary.
  Sorry guys, I just feel like we are beating this mule to death.

Iron Mike




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken Komoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [RR] Bowling for Colombine


> Why does my possession of a lethal weapon equal killing?  I assume you
> possess a knife.  How does that possession equal killing?  I am constantly
> amazed by the number of folk who simply equate possession of potential
> lethal force (for self and family protection) with killing.  'Peace
through
> Strength' seems a viable and reasonable tenet to me...  A gun, like a
knife
> is simply a tool that MAY be used for a lethal purpose.  (Of course it is
> designed to kill.  But bringing home a rabbit or deer is simply using the
> tool as it was designed.)
>
> At 07:00 AM 7/23/2003 +1000, Victor Zalakos wrote:
> >I have a problem with the whole foundaion of this argument - that we
> >somehow have a right to use lethal force.
> >I wonder how this equates to a new testament mindset.
> >I don't see Jesus condoning or using lethal force.
> >I see Jesus ordering me to love, to be as one and to turn the other
cheek.
> >
> >My position is that I would not ever use lethal force. Surely that's a
> >saner position than saying "I will..."
> >But that position has not been tested. Who knows under what provication I
> >might.
> >
> >Show my how killing lines up with Jesus' teaching in the New Testament?
> >
> >Victor.
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