In a message dated 12/13/99 1:41:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> I don't have to take it up with Commander Stanek.  Whatever he says is OK 
for 
> 
> Royal Rangers.  All I'm saying is that there seems to be a lot of confusion 
> as to what is "Certified" and what is completed.  The Red Cross says it has 
> to be an instructor that has completed the Instructor Course, which anyone 
> can take by contacting your local chapter of Red Cross.  That has been the 
> Red Cross standard for several years.  Unlike that of Royal Rangers.  Don't 
> take me wrong I love this ministry I give my all to my District and Local 
> Outpost.  I just wished that we could develop a standard and stick with it. 
 
> 
> I'm a Sectional Commander here in Northern Missouri the 2nd smallest 
> District 
> in the Nation, and the different standards across our District as well as 
> our 
> Nation disturb me.  I know that you have to make the program work for you 
> and 
> the boys but why water it down.  When it says to complete the First Aid as 
> Per American Red Cross then complete the Course per American Red Cross.  If 
> it says to tie a sheet bend then tie a sheetbend.  I'm not trying to flame 
> anyone But if it's blue then it's blue right?  During District Ranger of 
the 
> 
> Year testing I walk away shaking my head because some kid says "yeah but my 
> Commander said..."  Is that the kind of Standard we want?  Not me.  Like I 
>  said I'm not trying to flame anyone just asking is the Leaders Manual 
right 
>  or do we call National Office every time we can't find or don't want to 
find 
> 
>  the proper answer to the requirement.
>  
>  Sammy Moppin
>  Outpost 32 
>  Northern Missouri Dist.
>  

    Sammy is 100% right. When it comes to Red Cross training it is not up to 
the individual and the Commander it is between you and the Red Cross.  The 
Commander doesn't not have any say in the matter.  When the individual 
certifies, he is taking the Red Cross test, and not a Commander's test.  It 
is important to differentiate between the two.  The Commander may be a Red 
Cross instructor, but most point that out and say that they are not going to 
be wearing their Commander hat, but the Red Cross instructor hat as they are 
performing services for the Red Cross and not the Rangers at that particular 
time.  Some may share some insights that pertain between the two but remember 
Red Cross is not Rangers. Check with your local chapter, if you are running 
an LTC, check with your Sectional Commander to see if there is some extra 
room to fit you into the class for the Red Cross parts.  
  I participated one year in our District ROY program and this area is where 
the boys faltered the most.  Sometimes it was actually rather scary.  
Let's get pumped up and take the initiative to improve upon ourselves, our 
church, family and friends.  You never know when it may be your turn to rely 
on those skills to save someone's life. You always hope that you never need 
these skills, but they are nice to have In case you need them.  

Blessings,

Iron Mike
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