Absolutely. The National Folks should be consulted only when the
documentation is contradictory, like when the Trail Rangers
Handbook says the advancement pins should be worn 1/2" below
the outpost numeral on the sleeve, but the pictures show it over the
left pocket
WB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I don't have to take it up with Commander Stanek. Whatever he says is OK for
> Royal Rangers. All I'm saying is that there seems to be a lot of confusion
> as to what is "Certified" and what is completed. The Red Cross says it has
> to be an instructor that has completed the Instructor Course, which anyone
> can take by contacting your local chapter of Red Cross. That has been the
> Red Cross standard for several years. Unlike that of Royal Rangers. Don't
> take me wrong I love this ministry I give my all to my District and Local
> Outpost. I just wished that we could develop a standard and stick with it.
> I'm a Sectional Commander here in Northern Missouri the 2nd smallest District
> in the Nation, and the different standards across our District as well as our
> Nation disturb me. I know that you have to make the program work for you and
> the boys but why water it down. When it says to complete the First Aid as
> Per American Red Cross then complete the Course per American Red Cross. If
> it says to tie a sheet bend then tie a sheetbend. I'm not trying to flame
> anyone But if it's blue then it's blue right? During District Ranger of the
> Year testing I walk away shaking my head because some kid says "yeah but my
> Commander said..." Is that the kind of Standard we want? Not me. Like I
> said I'm not trying to flame anyone just asking is the Leaders Manual right
> or do we call National Office every time we can't find or don't want to find
> the proper answer to the requirement.
>
> Sammy Moppin
> Outpost 32
> Northern Missouri Dist.
>
> In a message dated 12/12/1999 8:32:09 PM Central Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Take it up with Paul Stanek in the National Office. He is the guy right
> > below Richard Marriott that made this ruling.
> >
> > On an informative note.
> > What does it take to become Red Cross Certified? Why don't we have
> > anyone around that can do it?
> > I have been through over 5, 8 hour long days on firstaid cpr in my 20
> > years with the SWBell Telephone.
> > We keep it current now every 3 years.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:57:26 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > I'm A paramedic and I work as the public information and education
> > > officer
> > > within or system. It is my job to teach the community First Aid and
> > > CPR.
> > > Because of this requirement I'm both certified to teach by the Red
> > > Cross and
> > > the American Heart Association. I hope I can distill some rumors
> > > and
> > > questions with this post.
> > >
> > > # 1 - The American Red Cross no longer has a First Aid Course called
> > >
> > > "Standard First Aid" it is now Called the "Community First Aid".
> > >
> > > # 2 - If you Ranger or Missionettes takes the Community First Aid
> > > Course he
> > > or she will get CPR training.
> > >
> > > # 3 - The American Heart Assn. does not teach First Aid the teach
> > > only CPR.
> > > And they have several different level of teaching for the general
> > > public.
> > >
> > > # 4 - To be "Certified" in First Aid, by the American Red Cross, you
> > > must be
> > > taught by a Certified First Aid instructor. Not to take anything
> > > away from
> > > any profession, if a Nurse, Firemen, or however teaches you and they
> > > are not
> > > Certified by the Red Cross you will NOT be Certified. To complete
> > > the Red
> > > Cross Course you will be given a final test and a certificate as
> > > well as a
> > > card saying you completed the course. If your instructor was not
> > > certified
> > > to teach that class by the red Cross Good Luck on getting the
> > > required
> > > documentation that you completed the course.
> > >
> > > Sammy Moppin
> > > Outpost 32
> > > Northern Missouri Dist.
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