--- clint grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's ' bout time I said something.
> Patrol system is nice and all, but... It is not a prerequisite to the
> main thing, which is to "Reach, Teach, and Keep boys for Christ". So
> quit harping on it and keep the main thing the main thing. This ain't
> boy scouts.

I agree that RR isn't Boy Scouts, I've known that since 1962
when I stood in a fresh  extra small Kahki uniform from the
local work clothes store.

Did you know the founder Johnnie Barnes wanted the Patrol Method
to be central to the organizational structure of RR? Have you
woundered why Boy positions have been in RR since day one?

*Have you ever experianced a "Lost Sr.Guide" with no idea of
what his job is, while his heart is desireing something other
than what he see's?

You hold up the "Main Thing" as the mission statement, but
in fact the "Main thing" is raiseing quality of life for a
boy.  *That is REACH them.

When you empower the boys to leadership, and equip them for success
*That is TEACH THEM

And when you impress upon them the significance of the Motto,
CODE and meaning of the emblem, and they become owners of that
in their heart... *That is to KEEP THEM FOR CHRIST!

*Clint.. Brother, How many other 1962 Rangers are still around?

 Doesn't have to be like boy scouts to work. God can do
> without it. God can make this thing work however He see's fit, which may
> or may not include "Patrol System". I like the patrol method, myself, I
> just don't think that we should make a religion out of it, which some
> obviously have, since "Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth
> speaketh", which is proof-positive for me.


I'm not getting this thought amigo..

Please explain.
I'd like to know where I've gone off-track.

Isn't NTC about the "Patrol"?
Isn't that "National Training"?


 Some body (I won't mention
> any names, just look at who this thing is addressed to) has done just
> that, in my estimation, and left the main thing way behind in the dust.

*Wilderness members travel the less worn paths.
I guess there's no home for the Trailblazer on return to the settlements.
Pilgrims have roosted!

-=*=-





>   
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rank Stranger
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 12:42 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [RR] The Probability of Accepting Christ
>   
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > In a message dated 8/2/2001 1:51:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> >
> > > However if that is true then why have an older boy
> > > program at all? It seemes we are running after them begging..
> > > yet we cannot reach them with *respect.
> > >
> >
> >  If the pool we draw from for the older boys is only the "church Kids"
> > then I
> > understand why we have the problem.  Some boys are not interested in
> > Rangers
> > just as some boys in Scouts quit when they get older.  We In Rangers
> > must
> > look outside the church walls if we want to see growth in the older
> age
> > groups.
> > Looking at the successes of Boy Scouts they bring boys in from all
> > walks.  I
> > say that Royal Rangers can do the same.    James
> 
> 
> That said.. Why don't we impact BSA Scouts with our 38 year history
> and tradition and join with them in "the Cause"...
> 
> Again, let's do our best at what we do best, and join with others
> in what they do best.  In Royal Ranger circles the "Patrol System"
> and boy leadership seems so strange that it breeds a negitive re-action.
> 
> Keeping Royal Rangers solid as a foundational ministry/program to
> younger boys, then sending them to a Scout troop where boy leadership
> is a core value, would settle the dust of re-inventing the wheel.<G>
> 
> Change is hard for long time Rangers.
> 
> If in this generation,  we allow fellowship with others of like faith
> that are not AoG "correct"... Then the seperation of programs i.e.
> BSA and RR seemes less important than it was in 1962.
> 
> I'm currently in a Scout troop composed of many community based church
> members and find it a very positive experiance for many reasons, that
> I have tried to share.  The hang-up I fore-see is with the ethic in
> BSA Scouts who are "Reverent in the respect of others faith"...
> 
> That is not a Ranger virtue.
> 
> -=*=-
> 
> 
> >
> 
> 
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