On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, 5:33pm (-0400), Chris Johnson wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 10:54:44PM +0200, Andreas Schamanek wrote:
> > To me it sounds like some people have not fully understood how Razor
> > works and why it actually (even version 1) works. One major reason why
> > there are not many false positives is that a message which arrives at
> > my mailbox and which is falsely reported to Razor is unlikely to
> > arrive in someone else's mailbox.
> 
> Unless it's legitimate mailing list mail that spamassassin tags as spam. Then
> if there are enough dimwits auto-reporting spamassassin-tagged mail, lots of
> people will report the same legitimate mail.

Wait a sec.  What exactly is the problem?  Is it autoreporting in general, 
or is it only the case of autoreporting spamassassin?

I autoreport non-spamtrap mail based on three things:
- Razor
- Blacklist
- A Bayesian spam filter
(in that order)

I also auto-revoke based on a whitelist.

I get very few false positives, and probably haven't had one in weeks (and
most of the false positives are flagged by razor in the first place,
especially now that my Bayesian filter is getting a better corpus).  And
I've never auto-revoked an actual piece of spam.

But what's more, I _review_ every single piece that's reported (after the
fact) to make sure it's spam, usually within a few hours.  Any that aren't
spam, I revoke.  

Admittedly, between the time I report a false positive and the time I
revoke it, anybody else that gets it is going to risk razor catching it,
but that's why you're not supposed to filter anything into /dev/null.

Why do I do it this way?  Two reasons.  One, it works.  Two, it's a _lot_ 
less work for me.  Much better to revoke a false positive every couple of 
weeks or month, and manually report a false negative once a week or so, 
than to have to manually report 20-30 spams a day, and manually revoke a 
false positive every day or two.

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