Only one or two percent of the mail I receive is direct to me.  The
rest is mailing lists and newsletters.  So no, Razor is not working
well for me.  If I had other people helping me, it might.  I had hoped
that Razor V2 would be an improvement, but the auto-reported stuff
looks like it is turning Razor into a duplicate of SpamAssassin.
Auto-reported stuff can easily overwhelm the input of actual human beings.
Since I am already paying the cost of running SA, running Razor is
starting to look like a waste of CPU cycles.

Jeffrey

Quoting Andreas Schamanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> Get out your flame throwers! Here is one of these "blatantly ignorant
> users": I *am* auto-reporting. And guess what: If Razor (and the other
> similar services) would not let me do it I would write my own checksum
> filter.
> 
> A message that came in and that for what ever reason was not tested
> against Razor (in my case I cannot check every message against Razor
> because this would put too much load on the server) but which is most
> likely UCE or UBE should, IMO, be reported.
> 
> To me it sounds like some people have not fully understood how Razor
> works and why it actually (even version 1) works. One major reason why
> there are not many false positives is that a message which arrives at
> my mailbox and which is falsely reported to Razor is unlikely to
> arrive in someone else's mailbox. Contrary, if it is spam it is likely
> to arrive at many mailboxes and should be filtered.
> 
> In case of mailing lists and such this concept does not work well. But
> that's where Razor2 comes in, doesn't it?
> 
> Anyway, Matt and Jeffrey and fellows, you won't be able to stop people
> from reporting non-spam messages (just by shouting out STOP!). You
> will have to find a way to deal with real stupid users and with people
> like me. Change the program, change your own thresholds or whatever.
> 
> BTW, I am auto-reporting and I am revoking falsely reported messages.
> 
> 
> YMMV,
> 


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